Are you for real, Riot? Ap Sion AP Garen AP Tristana Ad Malphite Ap Gangplank Ap Caitlyn You released shit like Braum with a single high cooldown AP scaling, or Lucian that on his ult has a meager 10% per shot, where hitting them with nashors is more reliable... And now ap ww... What are we going to play now?
Dynikus2 votesA bunch of special snowflake builds that only worked as cheese strats aren't viable anymore? I feel for you.
Photos of Ghosts1 votesI always only played cheese. I'm a cheese main.
Cloud2732 votesI think AP Yi deserved nerfs but they shouldn't have removed it completely like they did.
SomeLink2 votesYou forgot AP Miss Fortune. It's still.. somewhat possible, but a lot less reliable.
Revali1 votesap sion is still usable ap garen is a meme
ap tristana got what she deserved, destroyed it was never fun being smashed for almost 2k hp from dfg ult even as a tank :)
Ap malphite is still usable ap gangplank is still kinda there, just the fact that his barrels don't really apply the magic damage of lichbane hurts
ap Caitlyn was shit and should always be shit
your point?
Borkahn2 votesThink he was saying AD malphite not AP but still your points are valid.
Revali1 votesAD malphite is still usable aswell, its just not as conventional as an ap build since it suffers and old warwick issue: you're primarily magic damage with the exception of your autos.
Photos of Ghosts1 votesThey removed the reason it was good: the splash damage ratio.
Photos of Ghosts1 votesAp Sion has been nerfed several times when regular Sion had to be nerfed.
Ap Tris's issue is that they also nerfed her E, not that they nerfed the ult.
Was talking about W based ad Malphite
Ap GP has had several ratio nerfs with his rework for no apparent reason.
Zen Ineth1 votesThey're consolidating champion strengths and streamlining their abilities to be in line with their damage types.
Those outlying builds were fun and interesting, but were overall fodder for troll builds (or those people that were really just looking to dick about in a game).
Craft Zeppelin4 votes[{quoted}](name=Zen Ineth,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VncYiwTA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-11T08:46:27.041+0000)
They're consolidating champion strengths and streamlining their abilities to be in line with their damage types.
Those outlying builds were fun and interesting, but were overall fodder for troll builds (or those people that were really just looking to dick about in a game).
Well actually, the fact that you can have fun is the point. Afterall this is a game and not like 100% conpetitive. People sometimes just want to have fun, and well...removing it completely makes it a bit sad.
Zen Ineth1 votesYou can still have fun without being a detriment to your teams.
Photos of Ghosts1 votesBut it was NOT. Simply, it was cheese, and champions the enemy didn't know.
JackMcSnipeyz1 votesAP malph is legit and busted as fuck what are you talkimg about?
Sona Ping2 votesAP malph is legit and busted as fuck what are you talkimg about?
Read better please.
JackMcSnipeyz1 votes[{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VncYiwTA,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-01-11T09:02:45.276+0000)
Read better please.
What? He complained about AP WW and listed other champs that presumably got their off build removed. What are you talking about
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesAnd now ap ww... What are we going to play now?
Uhh, Bruiser AD/Tank Warwick?
Photos of Ghosts1 votesWhat offbuilds are left? I guess AP Tryn but he triggers in us the memories of regular Tryn being a piece of shit...
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesRiot doesn't support kits for off-builds, so technically, your complain did nothing at all.
Photos of Ghosts1 votesI get they don't but
Raoul1 votesMost of these Builds were either useless or broken. Nt one of them was balanced in any way.
Photos of Ghosts1 votesHere, ladies and gentlemen, we have a sheep. "Something was made to be used THIS way and THIS way only and if you tell me you can use it other ways YOU ARE A LIAR".
It just happens that there's a part of use who LOVES thematic disconnection, who LOVE to be a massive spooky dude waving around a wand.
SchmidttyGames3 votesWhen you argue against someone's statements, refrain from insulting them personally (ad hominem) or attempting to lump them into some kind of generalized derogatory group. You will never convince someone that you are correct with insults. You will only harden them against your position, even if they may agree with you.
Raoul1 votesNo, its just a fact. These build either exploited some aspects of a Champion to a point that is was broken (Old AP Tryndamere or old AP Yi) or they were Gimmik builds that left the champion weaker than he should be.
Beldair1 votesDon't knock my support champ.. Braums build Tanky.
And they did that because building AP on those 5 made no sense, Thematically.
They use physical damage so it made more sense to keep them physical.
Malphite is magical so it made more sense for AP to be prominent than AD.
Photos of Ghosts1 votesBraum CAN build tanky, and if he has been given usable offscalings like any other reasonable champ he COULD also have been built AP mid, top or JG.
Thematic disconnect and being an unusual build were why I used them.