Patch 5.18 is the most balanced patch this season (even though it's not perfect)

Sugar Momma·Sep 20, 2015·9 votes·633 views

I've noticed in my champ selects the past few days, that for the first time in a LONG time there are pretty much no "must-ban" champions.

Yes, there are champs that are strong atm or even OP, but I don't see any champ that's perma-banned.

Meanwhile, pretty much every role is equally viable atm. Mages, marksmen, tanks, assassins, supports...All of the jungle enchantments are more or less equally viable...And there are a variety of gameplay strategies going around, from the 5v5 rumble n' tumble, splitpush or even the odd Yasuo team comp

Just think it'd be nice to take a moment to realize that Riot did a pretty good job balancing this game for worlds :)

15 Comments

Frigid Ice StormSep 20, 201512 votes

What do you mean there are no must-bans? Darius Garen Fiora Skarner Mordekaiser are banned pretty much every game in ranked for me

YumaS2AstralSep 20, 20151 votes

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What do you mean there are no must-bans? are banned pretty much every game in ranked for me

I think that OP was being sarcastic

grumpyfrogySep 20, 20159 votes

darius has a 90% ban rate

garen has a 78%

firoa 73%

morde 64%

skarner 63%

and then the one after skarner is master yi with a 18% ban rate, notice the diffrence?

TurquoiseYoshiSep 20, 20154 votes

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PennsSep 20, 20152 votes

Darius

LoLKiruSep 20, 20152 votes

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So I REALLY do have to ask (and this is probably a clarity issue since I don't play much ranked but), why is he still an issue if he's worse off than he was in 5.17 statistically?

Both his winrate and pickrate dropped pretty significantly

54.91% --> 51.49% in terms of winrate

10.01% --> 5.23% in terms of pickrate

Current Banrate is 89.04%

Don't know how much his banrate has changed, but I'd imagine its still FAIRLY consistent, if not somewhat lower (since well, he's obviously weaker than 5.17 Darius, logic would dictate that 5.17 Darius would've had a higher banrate).

This has always been a weird concept to me, because statistically; you're MORE LIKELY to lose to Amumu, than you are to Darius (Amumu has a higher pick rate too, at least he does now; 6.95% compared to Darius 5.23%)

PennsSep 20, 20151 votes

He went down in terms of pick rate because hes perma banned. But yeah, having 400 AD with only tank items and black cleaver at level 18 is not a problem, why would it? I mean, he just heals like 900 HP every few seconds. That is if he only hits 2 people and is missing 3k hp + has a item 3065 Like his ult only does 1k+ true damage when building full tank, why would that be an issue lel hihi?

LoLKiruSep 20, 20151 votes

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He went down in terms of pick rate because hes perma banned. But yeah, having 400 AD with only tank items and black cleaver at level 18 is not a problem, why would it? I mean, he just heals like 900 HP every few seconds. That is if he only hits 2 people and is missing 3k hp + has a Like his ult only does 1k+ true damage when building full tank, why would that be an issue lel hihi?

Was he NOT permabanned last patch?

I was under the assumption that he was.

That said, Darius always did that (the whole, 1000-ish true damage reset thing), his issue was just that he always got blown up in fights far too quickly to ever do anything of value.

5 Stacks GGSep 20, 20152 votes

He was permabanned last patch

LoLKiruSep 20, 20151 votes

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He was permabanned last patch

Well then, that definitely can't be why his pickrate went down (especially not dropping by such a significant value; 5% is pretty high when it comes to pick rate)

PennsSep 20, 20151 votes

I think his ban rate has gone up with patch 5.18.

If you mean before the rework with "always", then yeah... Just that now he doesnt need to get 5 stacks at you, auto attacking once is enough if youre in freelo mode aka. his passive. His issue WAS that he always got blown up in fights, because he had to build 1-3 flat damage items to not be useless and get kited. Now he doesnt need anything + broken things like item 3053 or the insane Q heal help him stay alive. Gues why hes perma banned?