3 100% neccesary Yorick buffs

Spoofghoul··5 votes·521 views
  1. Make ult cooldown start at summon
  2. Allow yorick and maiden if near each other to both have 4 ghouls totaling 8 instead of current 4
  3. Make gravestones last a lot longer even when yorick leaves their vicinity so he can build ''graveyards'' so he can store some ghouls for later use, 10 minutes similar to bard chimes sounds fair

Yoricks ghouls are pretty suicidal and he has no control over them besides E And while he is decently strong with them he is pretty weak without any ghouls. His ghouls/maiden are very easily killed since they have no armor or mr. This puts yorick in a tough spot as in many cases a simple aoe like tiamat or sunfire can wipe out his ghouls way too effective, not to mention any aoe abilties. Some people have argued to boost his numbers like his sustain, even i have done so by asking for tougher ghouls/maiden, but why not instead just give him better and more access to ghouls/maiden. this way his numbers can stay the same and the ghouls keep their easy counterplay without leaving yorick all alone after a single arcane smash or broken wings. He could build a small graveyard so he can summon more then 1 wave of ghouls. and this also leaves him the opportunity to safe some graves so he can summon a few ghouls before grouping up with his team to contest an objective

Meanwhile maiden turns into a better splitpush threat as it can be send out a little more often, and yorick will be rewarded for managing to keep her alive by drawing aggro himself and stall his enemies from pursuing maiden and killing it.

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Meep Man4 votes

Those are some pretty crazy buffs my dude. Especially the first one. No way these could go through without nerfs at the same time, which would be weird since throwing power from one ability to another and such is usually only done when one ability is game warpingly powerful yet the other abilities are stupidly weak, which isn't the case here.

Yorick doesn't need buffs and his play style also isn't all that toxic to the game. He is in a balanced state, so I see no need for change.

Spoofghoul1 votes

Have you seen the ult cooldown time

his ult is not that powerful

its a very weak splitpushing option

and is otherwise good for farming jungle monsters and doing neutral objectives but it is pretty damn suicidal

meanwhile annie's ult gets to stun 5 people avenges her deals tons of damage regens fast out of combat has pretty good defenses and the ult cooldown is ticking away whilst tibbers is bending you over

meanwhile all of yoricks ghouls are wiped out near instantly at the start of any fight due to them being extremely vulnerable to aoe effects even maiden just gets 2 shot in fights since there is no resistances

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yorick with these buffs wouldn't spawn ghouls any faster besides ult which just suiced down lane anway, he just gets better access to them. He can only spawn them as fast as he can make graves, and he can only have a maximum of 4 so that doesnt change at all

he just gets more reliable access to having ghouls so he can safe up on them a bit longer if he chooses to do so having up to 8 ghouls in a teamfight instead of 4 would hardly be noticeable besides maybe 1 or 2 actually surviving any initial aoe effects

Rewt2 votes

That first buff is actually not ok. If the enemy team doesnt Instantly deal with the maiden then Yorick will basically have an infinite maiden. And the reason the gouls are easy to kill is because they do a shit ton of damage.

Meep Man2 votes

its a very weak splitpushing option

I disagree. It of course =/= a champion being there to split push, but essentially acts as a Super Minion when used to split push, gradually pushing out the wave and forcing a response, which removes a body from team fights which Yorick can happily be a part of.

and is otherwise good for farming jungle monsters and doing neutral objectives but it is pretty damn suicidal

You must not notice the extra damage it gives to Yorick. Yorick relies heavily on it when dueling extreme damage heavy threats later in the game.

I think the only buff I can see getting put into the game is the second one, but even that is pretty decent and overall not needed. Yorick DOES NOT NEED A BUFF. He wins consistently and, unlike other Juggernauts, doesn't feel useless against some Ranged match-ups. He is fine the way he is. Last thing we need is to open up a can of worms that isn't needed and have his balance be thrown into a big ol' pit that will take a while to climb out of.

NGNL Asian1 votes

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Have you seen the ult cooldown time

his ult is not that powerful

its a very weak splitpushing option

and is otherwise good for farming jungle monsters and doing neutral objectives but it is pretty damn suicidal

meanwhile annie's ult gets to stun 5 people avenges her deals tons of damage regens fast out of combat has pretty good defenses and the ult cooldown is ticking away whilst tibbers is bending you over

meanwhile all of yoricks ghouls are wiped out near instantly at the start of any fight due to them being extremely vulnerable to aoe effects even maiden just gets 2 shot in fights since there is no resistances

for more context

yorick with these buffs wouldn't spawn ghouls any faster besides ult which just suiced down lane anway, he just gets better access to them. He can only spawn them as fast as he can make graves, and he can only have a maximum of 4 so that doesnt change at all

he just gets more reliable access to having ghouls so he can safe up on them a bit longer if he chooses to do so having up to 8 ghouls in a teamfight instead of 4 would hardly be noticeable besides maybe 1 or 2 actually surviving any initial aoe effects

"Not that powerful". I abused yorick for a long time for a good reason

Les Bons dégats3 votes

Yorick is pretty balanced atm. Maybe reduce a bit his ult CD but that's it, he doesn't need much buff.

Seriously 8 ghouls ? cmon dude I rekt everyone 1v1 with 4 ghouls I know what I'm talking about (one trick Yorick 67% winrate)

NGNL Asian1 votes

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Yorick is pretty balanced atm. Maybe reduce a bit his ult CD but that's it, he doesn't need much buff.

Seriously 8 ghouls ? cmon dude I rekt everyone 1v1 with 4 ghouls I know what I'm talking about (one trick Yorick 67% winrate)

He's the god of 1v1 rn for a reason. Even camille cant 1v1 him without a good lead

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