10 responses to gameplay forum stuff

CerealBoxOfDoom··2 votes·823 views

1 how u fite voliburr

the first step is to figure out what champ you are playing, before you can defeat the enemy you must first know yourself.

2 Yi getting boofed!!!

yi is normally shit aside from when some item is out of control. That's not the case right now

3 Y we need bloo essenses

Its pretty easy to get. Especially if you play the special modes friday afternoon through monday morning

4 y u heal when i riposte vlad!

You know what else isnt fair? The shitty kit vlad has to play with compared to fiora... be thankful

5 bots in low level games

this is just the reality of online gaming. If you don't like it then never buy league account stuff from people riot tells you not to buy from. What's worse is that these operations can be linked to organized crime.

6 wut if ekko's stun duration scaled with ap

nothing terribly interesting would come of it. Earlygame when his AP would have been low anyways he's just going to deal about the same damage and use his circle for the shield or whichever ability that was. Even with a short stun he's just gonna deal most of his damage on the front end and scoot on away. At best it might make you cry less in teamfights when he kills the person next to you instantly then escapes faster because not enough AP to autoattack you uselessly.

7 zed nerfs reverted

correct, zed is the prototype healthy melee adc and simple damage nerfs will likely make him useless. There is very probably a way to add conditional damage for more effective nerfs. His loss of base damage will make it harder to come from behind or clear waves after having been out too long. This will mostly effect splitpushing which riot seems to target alot on such champs.

8 them cloud dragon buffs

tenacity as a reward for killing cloud dragon makes all other dragons shit, that's silly and insane, you stop this.

9 at what rank do mechanics outweigh knowledge

Bronze V and lower

10 how to melee vs adc top

depends on the champ but for the most part getting lifesteal items or massively defensive building will get you there

alot of the strategy involves knowing how to control and manipulate minion waves.

24 Comments

Bud Light1 votes

lol how does tenacity make all other dragons shit? your saying 3 wind dragons with 15% tenacity is better than 3 infernal with 24% ad/ap? please... whens the last time you even played! do you know what tenacity is?

CerealBoxOfDoom2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-25T21:57:53.765+0000)

lol how does tenacity make all other dragons shit? your saying 3 wind dragons with 15% tenacity is better than 3 infernal with 24% ad/ap? please... whens the last time you even played! do you know what tenacity is?

giving an entire team itemless resistance to CC is at the moment better than 34% ad/ap.

add to this the fact that Elder Dragon enhances this you end up in a situation where somthing like zed, yi, akali, irelia, or jax literally cannot be restrained even with no tenacity items. The effect this would have on the game would not be appealing to say the least

Bud Light1 votes

if that's your argument I feel sorry for you... those champs are usually low elo problems and the amount of damage you get from drag is way more valuable than 5% tenacity which is hardly anything

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-25T22:28:52.200+0000)

if that's your argument I feel sorry for you... those champs are usually low elo problems and the amount of damage you get from drag is way more valuable than 5% tenacity which is hardly anything

correct, usually they are low elo problems.

Until you introduce a meta where CC is laughable. They already upped the CC soft-cap again by releasing the tenacity potion. Honestly, a damage % reduction passive would be more balanced than more tenacity but you should probably avoid giving defensive bonuses altogether for the sake of keeping 2 hour games rare as they have been since season 3.

Bud Light1 votes

Its hard to tell if you actually know what you are talking about.....

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-25T22:44:39.200+0000)

Its hard to tell if you actually know what you are talking about.....

You'd have the same issue if it was you who didn't know what he was talking about....

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2016-05-25T22:40:39.700+0000)

5% is hardly anything lol and the chances of getting 3 is like 6%? by a guestimation... you wont go hey 3 air dragons pick this champ like it will happen every game lol I usually try to look at what kind of positive thing people have to tell me but what I'm seeing is nothing useful...

5% on every champ + the chance at an elder dragon + the potions available to all + the changes to the meta that could cause + the other buff comboing with it in general since pretty much everything combos with not-being-CC'd

all to buff an underestimated dragon, btw tenacity stacks multiplicatively. 5% + 15% is slightly more than 20% and it just gets worse as you add more sources

Bud Light1 votes

just stop man.... you don't make any sense....... If anything it would add more diversity in champ select instead of the same 20 champs over and over. The drag would be worth fighting over instead of well this one we can give its not big deal

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-25T23:19:55.352+0000)

just stop man.... you don't make any sense....... If anything it would add more diversity in champ select instead of the same 20 champs over and over. The drag would be worth fighting over instead of well this one we can give its not big deal

if a dragon isnt a big deal its because you dont have a teamcomp for it.

Bud Light1 votes

15 out of movement speed... that's all you get compared to 8% ap/ad - out of combat healing/mana regen - true bonus damage to structures and monsters.... please lol what kind of teamcomp is gona be like 15 movement speed EVERYONE SACRIFICE YOUR LIFE!

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-25T23:42:28.577+0000)

15 out of movement speed... that's all you get compared to 8% ap/ad - out of combat healing/mana regen - true bonus damage to structures and monsters.... please lol what kind of teamcomp is gona be like 15 movement speed EVERYONE SACRIFICE YOUR LIFE!

Probably not one you'd see in normal , unorganized gameplay, but here's an example

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmz9SylyHzI

btw speed advantage can be life or death for some junglers or splitpushers

Bud Light1 votes

SAME WITH TENACITY IT CAN BE LIFE OR DEATH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT ....just stop trying dude

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-26T00:00:16.959+0000)

SAME WITH TENACITY IT CAN BE LIFE OR DEATH WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT ....just stop trying dude

correct, both can life or death, but tenacity gives too much... did you forget the point?

Bud Light1 votes

what elo are you dude? How well do you actually understand the game?

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-26T00:15:59.869+0000)

what elo are you dude? How well do you actually understand the game?

I'm high enough ELO to tell you that your two questions have nothing to do with what I'm telling you.

Its a common mistake to mix gameplay and game design, one people have been making since I started playing five years ago.

dunno my ELO. This is the first year I've had any interest in actual ranked now that we no longer need a full team to do proper 5's. But I can say that I am unphased when laning against golds or plats outside of botlane. When a not very good Vi wanted to do an AS build today instead of complaining I just came up with a strategy for her on the spot.

But again, gameplay is not game design. You can be the god of league and still be a shit designer.

Bud Light1 votes

So its clear you aren't worth the time to argue with lol you don't know much

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-05-26T01:02:20.748+0000)

So its clear you aren't worth the time to argue with lol you don't know much

It sounds like youre struggling to discredit rather than rely on fairly simple math.

But even worse, only an idiot would base one's opinion on design on perceived rank. Most of the people who design this game for you are no higher than silver in gameplay.

Bud Light1 votes

well your wrong lmfao I know a few riot players and they are all plat+... What are you basing your math off of to say +15 out of movement speed is the same as 8% damage... show me this math and how that's balanced against each other... because you cant there is no math required

Joman7671 votes

Please give up... You are bringing up more and more stupid answers just to drag it on while this guy destroys you with every comment.

Bud Light1 votes

you are most likely his friend or alternate account lol its very obvious enjoy your silver

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000003,timestamp=2016-05-26T01:39:20.442+0000)

well your wrong lmfao I know a few riot players and they are all plat+... What are you basing your math off of to say +15 out of movement speed is the same as 8% damage... show me this math and how that's balanced against each other... because you cant there is no math required

If I can cross the map and capitalize on the situation in toplane faster than you can 100000 AD/AP usually isnt going to fix it. Hence why speedy junglers were ever a thing in the first place.

Data has also found that a speed advantage in toplane can also be oppressive.

Also that's not what I said but I don't disagree with it either.

ALSO 15 movespeed stacks multiplicatively with %MS bonuses. This can also be very helpful for those who are up against melee attackers like mid mages.

CerealBoxOfDoom1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bud Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VcL5soX9,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000005,timestamp=2016-05-26T02:06:57.213+0000)

you are most likely his friend or alternate account lol its very obvious enjoy your silver

How can you tell who he's talking to.. or are you just not feeling confident.

Joman7671 votes

You realize the reason they aren't played in high Elo is because they are all counter picked by anyone with high hard cc. That buff would take away all counters and make them all viable at all elos.

Bud Light1 votes

5% is hardly anything lol and the chances of getting 3 is like 6%? by a guestimation... you wont go hey 3 air dragons pick this champ like it will happen every game lol I usually try to look at what kind of positive thing people have to tell me but what I'm seeing is nothing useful...

Joman7671 votes

Idk why people downbote this stiff

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