Give me one good reason

Penta Penguin··2 votes·984 views

Why I can't just play any bruiser with a support in bot lane?

Mordekaiser can't be the only one just because he levels faster and "muh dragon xD"

I imagine there are some beefy champs that can just come back with a decent item and start face-tanking an early-game ADC and controlling the lane

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Crett3 votes

Let me tell you a few good ones

JarvanIV Leona item 3302 item 3302 This one is noteworthy for the ridiculously hard engage and synergy the two champs have (stuck in jarvan's cage? can't avoid leona's ult)

Garen Darius item 3302 item 3302 Never facecheck another bush

Archon X2 votes

lol what

the enemy adc will have range, and a support to prevent you from face-tanking

Penta Penguin1 votes

Except you're a front-liner and your whole purpose in life is to rush the carry and force a fight

Archon X1 votes

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maybe if you're fed and you have dead man's plate and merc treads and some other tanky shit but if you try that bs against me as soraka, or leona, or braum, or janna, or essentially anyone there's absolutely no way you're getting within melee range of my adc without taking a shitload of poke and cc from me, not to mention all the ranged harass from the adc themselves.

TheXtractor1 votes

Thresh Aaand your melee bot lane is now useless :D

Penta Penguin1 votes

also I get a support too sucka

Archon X1 votes

aight go find a support and get me an adc and we'll do a 2v2 bot lane and see what happens

Penta Penguin1 votes

get your own adc

lB2kGRlc8y1 votes

Yea, i want to see the blitz darius lane against whatever the fuck you have to offer.

MLDzXnRRR2 votes

You can, if you have a people who don't rage for not picking ADC.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

bruisers have their main powerspike midgame and are xp/level dependent and a bit less item dependent than adc. sharing a duo lane sets them back.

same reason why you dont play mages with a support on bot lane.

also, if you dont have an adc somewhere else, like quinn on top or kindred, youre gonna have a hell of a time pushing turrets by midgame or taking objectives like baron or drake. meaning the game drags out until lategame, where fighters fall off and adc get dominate.

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lol what

the enemy adc will have range, and a support to prevent you from face-tanking

this is also true. a double bruiser bot lane is hit or miss. either youre completely snowballing and stomping the lane, or you get poked and kited the shit out of you and lose hard.

melees cant even cs under their turret against an adc. another adc can due to the extra distance they have from their opponent.

lB2kGRlc8y1 votes

Annie Veigar Velkoz Zyra... These are all mages.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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Annie Veigar Velkoz Zyra... These are all mages.

those are played AS supports, not WITH supports what op was asking. a mage/support or bruiser/support lane might win early, if they dont get stomped. but they start losing by midgame.

the only reason morde works is due to his xp passive and the fact that he can use ghosts of drake or the opposing adc to siege turrets as good as they do.

lB2kGRlc8y2 votes

It's something I've been saying for a while, the kind of comp that counters the currently enforced picks. The need for a squishy adc and support in botlane is what makes blitz seem op, even though hooking a darius or jax is suicide. It's the reason Veigar was taken bot and saw any success at all, and was subsequently nerfed.

TheXtractor1 votes

They work fine in lane. its what after the lane comes that is the problem when a team doesnt have a ranged carry.

Penta Penguin1 votes

[spoiler]jungle Kindork[/spoiler]

A Small Dog1 votes

Well if you have a Kindred Jungle then arguably yes the team does have a ranged carry, but you won't know how the lane will go until you try. So why not set up a team like that with some friends and see how it goes? Might be fun.

TheXtractor1 votes

Thats like saying Quinn top is your ranged ADC. I dont think its that effective :P

Penta Penguin1 votes

Quinn top would be the safest choice to pick your AD carry actually, she'll just bounce off your shit all day any time you try to touch her and isn't easily zoned because of it, plus vision buff if she chooses to get aggressive, can ward off a counter-gank

Roaming mid is great fun too

LegendaryLemur1 votes

I believe the theory is that morde's ghost dragon can siege turrets when you don't have an adc a marks(wo)man.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Because most of the community is ignorant sheep who avoid everything that's not 'pro' build like the plague :/

lB2kGRlc8y2 votes

Same noobs who think Blitz is overpowered just because he shits on that terrible composition by design.

Archon X2 votes

you don't even play ranked bro

go play ranked with your anti-meta playstyle and see how far you get

things that are meta are such because they work well to win games

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

If I wanted to play the same thing every game, I wouldn't be here; but the yes-men like you who can't think for yourselves, are the first in line to throw away your wallets.

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