Why does Thornmail not have grevoius wounds

Rozair·Dec 15, 2016·3 votes·523 views

says needs grevious wounds

12 Comments

LostFr0stDec 15, 20162 votes

Because item 3075 is supposed to be counterbuilt by lifesteal, and grievous wounds would trump that.

RozairDec 15, 20162 votes

item 3075 deals a pathetic amount of magic damage which automatically gets reduced by magic resist. lifesteal is not a counter to . its a counter to everything. If an enemy tank builds a the adc should be forced into buying a magic resist item because grevoius wounds would be deadly.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 15, 20161 votes

but if you build more armor with it the more the passive does

and thronmail should never be your only defensive item.

RozairDec 16, 20161 votes

right then the adc gets item 3035 and all your armor is useless on top of the fact that item 3046 will also reduce item 3075 damage and they litterally heal more damage than you can deal with it.

early game example:

100 adc damage 30 magic resist vs 100 bonus armor 33.3333% damage reduction

67 damage

41 damage to adc before resistance 23% damage reduction 32 damage after resistance

10% lifesteal from 67 damage

6 heal gained

Total damage to adc from thornmail after healing = 26 damage

Late game example: 300 Adc damage 30 magic resist vs 500 bonus armor 83% damage reduction

minus lord domenics 45% armor pen 344 bonus armor remaining 7% armor pen from masteries 320 armor remaining 76% damage reduction

300 damage Infinity edge modifier 250% 750 damage minus damage reduction 180 damage

148 damage to adc before resistance 23% damage reduction 114 damage after resistance 12% damage reduction from phantom dancer 101 damage after phantom dancer reduction

20% lifesteal from 180 damage

36 health healed

Total damage to adc from thornmail after healing = 65

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 16, 20161 votes

yet you are basing that total on thornmail alone. not base armor, armor from runes or masteries or health or anything else

we are talking 100 fuckin armor for 2350 gold .

the most in the game. for the cheapest

and THORNMAIL IS SITUATIONAL ITEM ONLY

AND NEEDS TO BE BUILT WITH OTHER ARMOR ITEMS TO MAKE IT MORE EFFECTIVE

just as adcs need ad, crit and attack speed to be useful

thronmail benefits from more armor and health

armor reduces the amount of healing via lifesteal.

RozairDec 16, 20161 votes

65 damage from a late game item is nothing. 500 armor is crazy high and only Malphite can get that. If you stack that much armor and it still feels like your paper. I played a game yesterday I had 430 armor and tyrnd was hitting me for 700 per auto.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 16, 20161 votes

you do know he gets more crit chance the more fury/rage he has and he does more damage on Qs the lower his hp is you cant out fight him unless you have a champ like JAX who is equally fed... other then that you have to burst him

and items like item 3047 item 3075 item 3143 would work together to negate alot of his damage output

and oh summoner 3 is great vs him too

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 16, 20161 votes

part of the issue in that game... is your team had no good cc to lock him down... you had no threat of burst damage... or ap damage. and over all the damage output by your team was crap.

and you gave him 1st blood and got set behind and he got rolling from that.

and if you upgraded your smite to red smite.. you can reduce the damage he does to you if you are fighting him and you smite him. and you can do true damage to him.

there alot of ways to win that.

you got beat... and its he played well , its not the champ or the items.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoDec 15, 20161 votes

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built item 3027 item 3068 item 3047 item 3065 item 3075