I wonder when Riot will finally end Juggernaut Tahm

Jefftiffy··3 votes·409 views

It's one of the most annoying things in the game. He is running around as a better Leona right now. He's so much better that he is being brought into the jungle. He brings similar CC at a similar skill level and more mobility combined with more damage. He is literally a 1-up'd leona. His early game isn't all that weak, and his late game isn't that weak either. It's the same reason I don't like Leona, but it feels like he is basically a Leona that actually does damage past mid game.

I really think he should have his W changed current HP damage or have his extra damage based on HP removed. If you want to leave his damage intact then his grey shield should be equal to 75% of the damage he takes and his healing should be 20/24/28/32/36% grey hp. I feel like he is suffering from Lucian/Azir syndrome where no one knew how to build him for awhile then people figured it out and now he is causing problems because he received unnecessary buffs. On top of this the new Juggernaut items go really well with him too.

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CPU BIanc2 votes

didnt he get buff like 3-4 patches in a row at some point lol

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

Damn mentally unstable people. Tahm kench offers single target slow/stun-Leona Q. Tahm kench offers single target suspension,while Leona brings another root,AOE stun/AoE slow. Totally same cc right dumbass? Tahm kench offers mobility(which is channeled and can be cancelled and Untargetability to save his allies,as well as damage and little bit of cc. Leona on the other hands,offers the ability to complete raep single target and don't make them play the game,as well as natural tankiness,damage and increasing her allies damage.

Jefftiffy1 votes

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Damn mentally unstable people. Tahm kench offers single target slow/stun-Leona Q. Tahm kench offers single target suspension,while Leona brings another root,AOE stun/AoE slow. Totally same cc right dumbass? Tahm kench offers mobility(which is channeled and can be cancelled and Untargetability to save his allies,as well as damage and little bit of cc. Leona on the other hands,offers the ability to complete raep single target and don't make them play the game,as well as natural tankiness,damage and increasing her allies damage.

But does leona combo a bruiser for half their hp? No she doesn't. Does Leona live through 8k dmg. No she doesn't. Can she force you into her team or bring them to you? No she can't.

The problem with giving people stacking passives and random damage passives when they are a tank is they don't fit their role. So you are stuck balancing around what ifs instead of always.

As it is right now, Tahm has no real flaw other than he is melee, but he has a strong slow and that same ability can stun, but why would you ever stun somebody that you can walk up and remove from a fight for as long as you choose instead of a set time and burst them for at least 25% of their HP no matter how much health you have left. And his grey hp doesn't fall off if the fight is over a really long time so he can basically just double his hp in any team fight while just running towards the carry and because of an update a long time ago he gets armor and mr on the shield making him essentially have 2 hp bars (the decay is almost nothing).

Meep Man2 votes

And he is immobile with no guaranteed escape. Also that first part of your argument is terrible really. Its like comparing Ryze with Ziggs.

Can Ziggs permaroot his enemies? No! Can Ziggs get damage off of entirely defensive items? No! Can Ziggs point and click kill his targets? No he can't.

You know what Leona can do that Tahm can't? ENGAGE! She can engage a team fight. She can stun multiple enemies. She gives her allies extra damage on their spells and abilities!

Like, what have we come to if you just let anyone walk towards your team? What is peel people? What is it!?

Vicarious1171 votes

Tahm.... and Leona? Wtf you smoking?

With your logic here, ANY champ with single target cc (even though Leo does have AoE cc) that builds tank would be considered a Leo copy. It's simply false logic.

Tahm and Leo play drastically differently, there is very little similar in their gameplay aside from having cc, which is not something unique.

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