And that's on top of the high-end scaling/execute it has.
Just FYI.
######It deals 340; Blitz's is the next closest at 300, IIRC.
######Edit: Nid's spear is 390 at max range; keep in mind that's much less reliable as well.
Big Lincoln2 votesbut it's a SKILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHOT
WoonStruck1 votes$CL-shot :^)
Chijoku1 votesTrue, it is rather high. But it is the center of his whole kit, and without it he pretty much has zero damage output early. That is why missing Q's is so devastating early game. Not to mention he is sitting at 112th place in terms of winrate across all divisions atm.
Paroe2 votesTrue, it is rather high. But it is the center of his whole kit, and without it he pretty much has zero damage output early. That is why missing Q's is so devastating early game. Not to mention he is sitting at 112th place in terms of winrate across all divisions atm.
His ult is a massive nuke on a 45 second cooldown? He litterally Qs in, EEs, ults, W's out.
WoonStruck3 votesActually, no.
He W's in, E's if possible before R, ults, then Qs so there's 0 chance of missing Q, then E's if he didn't earlier.
However, the combo you listed applies in some cases too.
Gee, it sure would be a shame if he had to use his passive during his combos to get kills
Chijoku1 votesThen don't give him the opportunity to do so. He is still a position-skillshot based champ, if you are allowing yourself to get caught you are to blame.
Paroe1 votesActually, no.
He W's in, E's if possible before R, ults, then Qs so there's 0 chance of missing Q, then E's if he didn't earlier.
However, the combo you listed applies in some cases too.
Gee, it sure would be a shame if he had to use his passive during his combos to get kills
Most AD lees i see QQ, EE, R, W. the W, EE, point blank Q, R, Q combo is more of a bruiser/gank thing.
WoonStruck1 votesLee has been one of the worst win-rates even when he was considered the most broken champion in the game.
Gragas, when he was the most broken champ in the game, had a 32% winrate.
When a champion is popular, you can't use winrate to argue strength unless its unnaturally high for the playrate.
Paroe2 votesLee has been one of the worst win-rates even when he was considered the most broken champion in the game.
Gragas, when he was the most broken champ in the game, had a 32% winrate.
When a champion is popular, you can't use winrate to argue strength unless its unnaturally high for the playrate.
average 48% win rate with a 30% pick rate across all ELOs and regions is unnaturally high. :P
Chijoku1 votesIf you look at individual division rates, sure you can. In diamond he isn't even above 50%. If his base damage on his Q was so strong it would be higher. and even in master tier he is still in 78th place with a 52%, below several other junglers.
WoonStruck1 votesA few other junglers being broken or utilized 1/30th of the amount he is doesn't mean he's not overtuned.
This has been proven multiple (20+) times in the past.
Paroe1 votesIf you look at individual division rates, sure you can. In diamond he isn't even above 50%. If his base damage on his Q was so strong, and even in master tier he is still in 78th place with a 52%, below several other junglers.
If a champion, across ALL REGIONS, retains above 46% average win rate across all elos theres a massive problem. The reason lee sin has never "been a problem" is because of the absolutely massive amount of people who play him. Lee sin has the largest stable playerbase of ANY champion, which dilutes the pool.
Paroe1 votes#Nerfleesin2017 120+0.4bAD/120+0.4bAD +4-8% missing health!
Lv1 Facecheck GG1 votes
Max range Javelin toss is 390
WoonStruck1 votesTrue. Thanks!
Nidalee at least has trade-offs for that in her kit, though.
The Lost Marbles1 votesKled's Beartrap on a Rope does 375 if both hits go off on an enemy champion, so it does more than Lee's Q unless the target is missing more than 437 Health.
They also both have 180% Bonus AD scaling across two hits, interestingly.
Paroe1 votesKled's Beartrap on a Rope does 375 if both hits go off on an enemy champion, so it does more than Lee's Q unless the target is missing more than 437 Health.
They also both have 180% Bonus AD scaling across two hits, interestingly.
Most of kleds damage is frontloaded on his Q though, His E does negligible damage and his W is just basic attacks.
LadyRenly1 votesits so he can build full/half tank and still one shot the adc