This isn't totally true for uncoordinated teams but with premades and pro teams she objectively has the best kit for jungling and no amount of nerfs is going to change that. Riot can raise her cooldowns and do whatever they want, but as long as she has that kit she'll never not be a contested pick in coordinated play.
Earl Eulrich19 voteswithout vision being at an all time low rek´sai really would lose a lot of her appeal. But as it is a walking ward with a knockup function is just the thing every team needs this season.
Profirix15 votesArmor and Armor/level reduction on PBE. Shes almost to the point of being completely gutted. Riot is trying SO hard to kill her.
Akali is SO HOT15 votesThose nerfs will probably have to make her back a little earlier than she does now but it's not gonna stop her from going on her rampage ganks after 1 or 2 backs. They did the same thing to Kindred, but her winrate didn't fall too hard after the nerfs. The nerfs will hurt no doubt, but I don't think they'll be enough to stop her from being contested.
If they really want to kick her out they should just raise her Tremor Sense to every 3 seconds, make her ult not global at ranks 1 and 2, increase the on target cooldown for her W knockup, and make her tunnels decay way faster. That would probably be overkill but she's gonna need some big ass nerfs before she stops seeing pro play.
She's basically the jungler version of Azir.
ForgiveColour2 votes"Going to be gutted"
Maybe you should learn to play reksai LOL
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Armor and Armor/level reduction on PBE. Shes almost to the point of being completely gutted. Riot is trying SO hard to kill her.
shut up kid you put your personal feelings for reksai when u talk bias scum its not that bad its good for the balance
Profirix1 votesHe's a skarner only main. No wonder he bad-mouths everyone attempting to defend Rek'Sai. Maybe being constructive would be a little more helpful to your cause than to troll every Rek'Sai post out there.
Lord Galvatron2 votesGuess Old Yorick has one more grave to dig before he retires from the rift.
Droogzy4 votesIt's ironic that they continually nerf her, considering in her champion spotlight they said they set to create a queen of the jungle when they developed her.
Innate healing? Check. Access to hard CC by level 3? Check Global Presence? Check Unparalleled vision control? Check
Rek'Sai's kit is a jungler's wet dream the way she's set up.
The Ecdysiast4 votesRek'sai's the golden example of how it's a whole different game with premade groups.
JDB8eoX8x03 votesWhat's upsetting is that she "hears" people in fog of war. This completely reduces some of the enemy junglers to zero, like Shaco, Evelynn and Twitch. Imagine if they did this to Lee Sin who is also blind. "Lee can now spot enemies in bushes. Since he's deaf, he improved his ability to hear things and now has a ward aura that warns his team.
Divine Winds1 votesWhich is why she's a good counter to shaco... and you now know not to pick someone like that against a reksai. Since reksai is almost always a first pick in LCS, they won't pick champs like Shaco, or rengar. Not that they would pick Shaco or Rengar at all.
RogueWill2 votesthey just have to raise the cooldown of tunnels and make them decay faster on their own, no need to touch her damage. That's what gives her the edge on pro play anyway
MrWasjig2 votesWhat do you mean "Unless she gets gutted"? You don't consider the landslide of nerfs since release a gutting already? xp
WarlockLaw1 votesA champion isn't gutted until they are unplayable.
MrWasjig1 votesYou can't deny she's a husk of her former self. Rek is in a similar condition to Azir, they've had to strip down so much shit since release...
WarlockLaw1 votesAnd yet despite the constant nerfs they both remained competitive stables through a lot if this. I don't pay too much attention to competitive so I might be a little behind but I believe Rek'Sai is still picked all the time and Azir is finally not a frequent pick. The two of them just have too strong of a kit with high play making abilities. Without kit changes the two will either be useless across the board or competitive staples
Jorencice1 votesIn that case a champion has never been gutted.
I still had a positive winrate on "gutted" evelyn it was just 10x harder.
Calabok1 votesthen let us get the gutting knife.
CerealBoxOfDoom1 votesmore detail please
Akali is SO HOT4 votes7
MunchCrunchLunch1 voteswell they can over nerf her and make her clear terrible and too vulnerable to invades and what not.
Only Play Darius1 votesThey could always remove her knockup, which I wish they would have done at the start and left all her damage intact.
NichtHurz1 votesSo she would be a jungler without any cc and no chance to stay on the target without her tunnels? This wouldn't help anything and make her completely useless. If you'd take her knockup away you could as well do a full rework.
Only Play Darius1 votesThey could replace it with a slow, a root, maybe make an effect where the ground near her unburrow becomes "unstable" and blocks mobility spells like Cassiopeia, but professional play has proven the knockup to be way too strong as she is still pick/ban even though it's all she really brings at this point.
SpecterVonBaren1 votesMake it so her knockup can only knock up ONE champion with it being the one closest to her hit box. Nerf her tremor sense so that ONLY the player playing Rek'Sai can see it (Yes I know that if Rek'Sai is playing with someone else they can be on voice chat with each other but even for the LCS it would mean that it would take precious seconds to tell their team what they are seeing)
Now she lacks teamwide utility and her more selfish aspects can be heightened which would make her less desirable in the LCS. Make her a savage hunter that mauls you to death instead of a tanky knockup bot that builds almost completely tank.
PokladnicaZla1 votesI'm sorry, if I'm wrong,but does she still give vision to allies? i remember playing with a Rek'Sai on my teams and actually being able to see enemies through tremor sense. I might be wrong or have been drunk at that time. Removing that would be a good start snd then buffing her to compensate.
LatetotheRace8 votesYes allies can see her tremor. But removing it would do nothing to teamplay, as this can be effectively communicated through voice chat.
PokladnicaZla3 votesIt's still an amazing skill,which would be amazing to have on a support. Being able to know where enemies are (even stealth ones) is a huge advantage. Communicating through voice chat would be a bit harder though.
VoidStaresBack1 votesEh, it actually would hurt teamplay slightly, because while you can tell your allies where they are your allies can't see their more-or-less exact positions to aim skillshots at, for example.
Veltox1 votesThe solution is simple..gut her like Azir till VGU.
PiVoRx1 votesThis is what happens when Riot designs champions with overloaded kits.
All are victims of Riots "creativity" and cause their abilities are not stat-based, their base stats needs to be gutted to remain balanced.
SolarisCorvus1 votesNow dont give riot any ideas about my boy tamh "the bench" kench, thats my main
It Hertz When IP4 votesTK might be overloaded, but since his only hard CCs require him to land 3 AA's first, I wouldn't say he's a problem child.
plentypong1 votes
hotarse1 votesReksai gets way too tanky way too fast. Reksai can see through fog of war. Reksai has enough mobility to hop over two walls within a second of each other. Reksai can hop across the map after a successful gank. Reksai has no damage because when she did, she was way too powerful. Reksai relies pretty heavily on flash to get incredible engages.
How do we fix this. Lose some of that mid to late game tankiness. Lower the duration which he can see movement in fog of war. Increase cooldown on tunnels or make it so Reksai has to wait 3 seconds of taking no champion damage to use them. Decrease max range of ulti. Give Reksai a bit more damage, particularly on prey seeker. Give reksai a bigger radius on unborrow so she can use it without flash when positioned well.
The Yetii Rider1 votesSomething else that makes her strong in competitive is her sustain. It helps her gank very early and stay in the jungle much longer than she should be able to.
I say remove the sustain entirely, don't nerf her armor. It accomplishes the same thing while being harder for pro players to play around (if her armor gets nerfed, they just kite the camp more to take fewer hits and then heal it off. If her heal is removed, well they just need to base more)
Hrkk Ptoo1 votesIve been playing rek sai in Solo queue and shes still strong as fuck. She is my favourite champion and I hope they don't gut her to much but I'll prob still play her as long as they don't change how her abilities work.
Dealth1 votesStrongly disagree. If riot increases the cooldowns on her abilities by a lot she will not be played competitively.
Saianna1 votesI might be veird but I'd prefer to jungle as Yi or Fiddle more than Rek. Not saying they are better. Just Yi feels faster and you can feel power increasing, while Fiddle is extremaly safe jungler (you just can't die to jungle creeps).
Shadow Hazard1 votesThe PBE nerfs will probably do the trick. it is basically adding weakness to the kit in the form of a much weaker and less healthy early clear. Now in the early levels the answer will be to ward and invade. Opinion wise at least.
Jaygo411 voteswhat if you made her W unburrow delayed? for example if you hit W, it takes .25 or .4 seconds and she has to unburrow. for me i feel like the reliability her CC has combined with the fact that her gapcloser is in no way tied to her CC (a la 
etc.) She can use her E to get over walls and then walk to them and get a free knockup. what if it took a bit to unburrow, this way there's potential to juke it or something like that?
More to the discussion, if you took any other jungle champion outside of maybe 
, you could identify a strong point that ISNT "jungling"
is a strong tank with a nearly game breaking initiate and free armor
is a high burst damage assassin with a reset and spammable poke. Fantastic 1v1.
is a jungle mage who specializes in soloing objectives and flanking teams with his crowstorm, fearing incoming attackers and blowing CDs with ulti and zhonyas
is good at jungling. She ganks well, clears well, tanks well, fights well, global pressure, long range poke, knockup. What more do you want
Lugg1 votesI have said this since she was released. She was tailor made to jungle.
The only other champions that can jungle against her are 
. All others are at a disadvantage.
