I seriously do not understand why AP Kai'sa is allowed to do the things she's doing.

KillerShim·Jul 23, 2018·7 votes·3,742 views

900 health shield, 5000 unit dash, lock on isolation one shot ability, 1000 damage passive because I'm playing a bruiser, invisibility, insane fucking healing, etc.

Like it what realm of possibilities is this "fun" to play against? She's a one man team every single time I play against her. Nerf her AP ratio's in her passive and Q, she's also got too much fucking mobility and has the potential of 1v2ing in lane because of how much shit she's got going for her in her kit.

Normally, I don't bitch and complain about a champion being overloaded, but this has just gone on for WAY to long, any streamer I've ever watched since her release has bitched about her, so why are you not taking action? Because she hasn't made it to the front page of Reddit? That's not logical.

Total damage dealt:

https://i.imgur.com/UmApQzx.png

Total healing done: (Healed more than my Soraka).

https://i.imgur.com/MB0XLb7.png

Total magic damage dealt:

https://i.imgur.com/oXYnde8.png

Now of course, any champion would do this if they were 32/6, but it just seems that she does so much damage early game, that she just snowballs out of control. She has no weak point in stages of the game, it's just "I do fuck tons of damage regardless of how many items I have".

To me, Kai'sa is the definition of "power creep". I'm not even trying to be irrational here, but it's legit every time I have one in my game, being on my team or the other, she just solo wins the game because of how much she has going for her.

13 Comments

HayaishiJul 24, 20183 votes

Difference with Varus is that he is gated by cooldowns. His abilities can miss, he also has no mobility, stealth or shields he is easier to pin down.

BernJul 23, 20182 votes

She's allowed to do it because she has to get there after a shit lane and a bunch of expensive items.

Kai'sa is a better version of Vayne. If you let her get to the point where she can hard carry, you played the game wrong.

KillerShimJul 23, 20181 votes

How is her lane shitty in this current meta? All she needs is a all in set-up support and she's good to go.

KrullyJul 23, 20181 votes

you take a cc heavy support and you're giggling

BernJul 24, 20184 votes

Kai'sa without items does no damage. You don't reliably win all-ins. If you take a support good at all-ins, you also sack a ton of lane pressure by taking a melee support and you're just gonna get shoved in and lose lane because you have almost no wave control.

Kai'sa used to be able to win early fights without items, but not so much anymore after the last round of nerfs. Her passive got hit too hard. Her winrate isn't even above 50% until after 30 minutes, and it's below 45% from 15-20 and 20-25. She takes a long time to scale into actual relevance.

Stormrazor Kai'sa, though, that's probably pretty strong right now. But AP Kai'sa? Hell no.

SithesisLordJul 23, 20182 votes

Something something AP scaling on her passive is bullshit and shouldn´t even be there in the first place.

That is also applicable to Varus.

KillerShimJul 23, 20181 votes

Does varus do 800 magic damage with his W? No.

SithesisLordJul 24, 20182 votes

Because what makes AP Kai'Sa broken totally is her slow moving, long range, easy to miss W, not her passive, which assuming 700 AP can make her deal over 40% of a champion's missing HP in magic damage.

InfernapeJul 24, 20181 votes

He can do. His W is % missing health (the active) and the passive is %max HP. AP Varus bursts tanky targets.

KillerShimJul 24, 20181 votes

Yeah, but that requires pressing W on top of landing an ability. Kai'sa literally just auto's you 5 times.

JaspersJul 24, 20181 votes

AP Kai'Sa is a bit stupid, passive damage can do more damage some champs basic abilities without building AP.

AimléssJul 24, 20181 votes

She needs to dive into fights to be useful. Any comp with cc destroys her and its not even funny.

LeyruhJul 24, 20181 votes

I disagree with you on her mobility. Her main source of mobility is in her Ultimate, which requires a condition : she has to mark you. ( or if a teammate hits an opponent I believe they are marked )

Yes, her dash is long, but it's shorter than her Evolved W. Which means that if a Kai'Sa marked you and you're too far, she can't ult you.

Her E grants her movement speed and Stealth when Evolved, but it doesn't make her that mobile. I can tell you that a Kai'Sa who's being chased won't save herself with only her E, even when she already Evolved it. ( the stealth isn't even a second long )

Yes, AP Kai'Sa is disgusting ( -ly fun ), but she gets pushed around so much in the laning phase. She is like Vayne in that aspect. If you don't put her behind, she's gonna outscale you faster than you would like.

Played a bunch of Zoe Support with my premade going Lux APC and let me tell you : Kai'Sa gets destroyed. Each time we face a Kai'Sa with this duo, we stomp them hard. The CC is just too much and the burst is ridiculous.

Basically, if she's hit by any CC, she's dead, or barely alive.

If Kai'Sa gets locked down in the laning phase, she's screwed. Same thing late game but she has her Evolved E if she wants to escape ( or try to dodge/drop aggro ) and her Ult can be used defensively if necessary.

Although, if you stomp a Kai'Sa, she'll be pretty much a flower pot. No threat at all.