Why do some champs have horrible AA animations?

Eedat·Oct 16, 2016·5 votes·1,172 views

I never understood why some champs have horrendous auto-attack animations. It just seems like adding an extra artificial level of difficulty to champs because you are going to miss more CS on them when compared to the same player on another champ with a great animation.

Champs like have horrendous animations and I don't understand why. 's AA animation is so bad that it's been a meme for years now.

Why? I dont understand the reasoning behind making it harder for certain champs to last hit. Can you fix that? Would be great to get rid this terrible mechanic

20 Comments

JustMonika13Oct 16, 20166 votes

Karthus 's AA animation is bad/ uber slow mostly because he was made with farming with his Q in mind...

Fondling GemsOct 16, 201610 votes

I will say that Karthus should be an exception to the rule because he was designed around not being able to weave in AA's between each Q, which would add a massive amount of power to him.

SwiftKitten88Oct 16, 20163 votes

i think Ziggs is pretty hard to CS with too..

i mean he used to be considered the king of CSing because of his Q, and now that is barely effective.. while Viktor can press q once to kill all 6 minions.

the only thing Ziggs has over Viktor is killing turrets...

Fondling GemsOct 16, 20162 votes

E, not Q. Sorry, that just bugs me.

Fondling GemsOct 16, 20163 votes

While I agree with you I don't think Vlad's aa animation is actually that bad. It isn't amazing, but I think it sets a good standard for an aa animation.

Nice FellowOct 17, 20163 votes

Swains aa was the hardest

MunchCrunchLunchOct 17, 20163 votes

malphite is one of the worst cosndering hes a melee champion too

jax is awful too. and hes an auto attacker. the animation is too slow.

LankPantsOct 17, 20161 votes

jax is awful too. and hes an auto attacker. the animation is too slow.

I feel like Jax's animation is fairly average, but it feels worse than it is because his passive makes your AS fly all over the place. Your animation is variable depending on how many stacks you have and it takes a lot of skill to work around the huge animation variations that can change hundreds of times over the laning phase.

AstôlfoOct 16, 20162 votes

I can't tell what takes longer. CSing with Karthus or waiting for Morg's Q to end.

Big LincolnOct 16, 20161 votes

they buffed karthus animation a long time ago

it's actually pretty smooth now

TyrekGoldenspearOct 16, 20166 votes

Yup. Smooth molasses.

SukishooOct 16, 20161 votes

Well it is because some champions aren't really meant to use their AAs at a high amount like others. All of what you have mentioned are mage based champions and most mages are more focused with their spells. Karthus like others mentioned is meant to use his Q for farming and poking people down. Anivia uses her Ult to most of her annoyance.

Malphite his are arguable, I find them alright when I play him but eh..

So their AAs are just there because the design of a champion requires them to have an auto attack even if it isn't very effective when compared to others.

YagoOct 17, 20161 votes

I find Vlad and Anivia's attack animations to be amazing. I don't mind most of the 'bad' animations, because I came from DotA, where certain heroes' attack animations are a thousand times more difficult to utilize. (Like Drow Ranger and Clinkz, who have a hideously long delay before the shot is fired). Hell, there it can actually be difficult to last hit with a great animation, like Sniper, because someone who is very good with a long delay ranged auto attack can actually time it so that their projectile hits to deny / last hit before you can even issue the order.

The DeckownerOct 17, 20161 votes

I think some mages are given garbage aa animation becaise they have abilities that helps them cs, for example, annie was given a terrible aa animation because her q.

DorkunedAurasOct 17, 20161 votes

Don't know what you're talking about with Karthus Autos. Sure they have a delay and cost mana, but they're AoE, scale super well with AP, and even bypass windwall

TwinkieProOct 17, 20161 votes

Mages in general have shitty auto animations, It's to discourage them from building ADC oriented. Can you imagine an ADC Anivia Annie or Zyra ? lock you in place and go ham with autos.

LankPantsOct 17, 20161 votes

Can you imagine an ADC Anivia Annie or Zyra ? lock you in place and go ham with autos.

Yes, they're terrible because they lack the damage of an ADC and they rely entirely on CC, which can be dodged. I'm not even theory crafting, over the ~5 years I've played this game I've seen all 3 of these champs as well as a few other mages be played as ADCs, the only one that's ever really been close to viability is Ahri.

TwinkieProOct 18, 20161 votes

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I said why that is. Each one of them have a 575 aa range, with anivia being 600. However, their attack animation is awkward and that is to discourage them from actually building adc.

Secondly, you can't dodge an Annie stun, only predict and avoid or block.

Thirdly, Ahri has a decent animation, And I'm entirely unsure why it is so reliable. Then again, I think she should be nerfed into the dirt, but that could just be personal hatred.