I can tell you 100% that if Senna is not changed Ill be playing her Top and Mid.

5050BS·Oct 30, 2019·2 votes·1,773 views

She has everything you want in a solo laner.

She is safe AF. Safer then Lux. She is ez to CS with.
Jungle ganks to the lane are like a guaranteed kill. She can help all lanes or even the jungler (the shield on her Ult is great) She can check Dragons/RH/Baron with Ult. In team fights mid to late game she damage and support

Her range late is just stupid. She is behind the adc so all your Q's will be healing everyone on your team.

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Umbral KnightOct 31, 20192 votes

Her Q and AA animations are so long that any decent Mid or Top laner is gonna punish you for trying. Until she gets decent stacks on her passive to increase her auto to or past Caitlyn levels at 40+ she is hella vulnerable to ganks and CC.

Darius Pull and she DIES unless she can land a W. Which is as slow as Morg root and just as easily avoided.

Fiora Riposte W, she is stunned and Fiora is ALL OVER HER.

Renekton dash and stun and Nasus wither.

Irelia everything.

Katarina will just E over her W and punish her.

Zed will have a field day with her.

Fizz will just pole hop her W and then delete her.

I mean I can go ON AND ON AND ON about how BAD an idea that is. The BEST match up against her I can think of is Annie since all her abilities are 625 range and she will outrange them all pretty quickly but even then a flash Tibbers death.

She doesn't have the escape tools to STOP most top or mid laners.

Most point and click CC has been phased out of League meaning her E doesn't stop it from going through and most mid and top laners have some kind of AoE non-targeted ability to damage champs that can go invis like her.

I hate videos like the one linked to cause its almost pornographic in nature since its always the best possible scenario. Either he is using friends to bring the Elo in the match down far enough that he could faceroll his keyboard and still win or he is being fed in a custom game FOR THE VIDEO content. Like show me the matches where she fails. Honestly I have only seen her really push a match to win from the support role where she helped feed a Draven like 8 kills before the 10 min mark. Most other matches she had minimal or negative impact.

PumpedheroOct 30, 20191 votes

Shield on her ult is mediocre, using the ult to check objs is kinda a waste unless its late late game where its the game ending factor, her range late? I mean she is an ADC/SUPPORT, so she better have range. I can agree shes safe, thats her playstyle while she scales, thats her job.. ur suppose to stop her from scaling, CS's just like other people, not too much of a difference, and i dont think people care if shes played mid or top.. most adcs now are played mid or top anyway since the community whines and begs for bot to get nerfed every season.

SaezioOct 30, 20191 votes

How exactly is she safe? xD The shield from R and her heal on Q count as safe to you?

BTW she can't cs under tower. Her attackspeed is really really shitty. 0,5 second is just her auto animation xD

5050BSOct 30, 20191 votes

Yes her Q heal affects her. She is healed every time you cast it. The R Shield also affects herself.

CSing with her is very ez and with her Q she has wave clear so you wont be under turret unless something happened. CSing is ez because of the bonus damage she gets to auto attacks.

She is safe like Lux.

Enemy goes for you, W and they are Rooted.
Enemy has a point and click you want to avoid, you press E and for a good duration you cant be clicked on. Enemy goes for you, two attacks gives you a passive stack and you do % of their current HP. As the game goes on your range gets longer and longer.

With item 3147 and her E if timed correctly you get off a Dusk blade proc with every auto attack.

At 180 stacks she can attack turrets outside turret range. At 140 she can weave in and out of turret range dodging most turret shots while you damage it.

Oh and for every mist stack (at least from minions) you get 3GP as extra gold.

SaezioOct 30, 20191 votes

You do know if the enemy gets in the circle of the E they see you normally. And they can click you

Fuhrer UsagiOct 30, 20191 votes

https://youtu.be/BrYA6db53hA?t=726

This is how safe she is in a nutshell.

To anyone who doesn't want to watch the turret. The whole game bunny fufuu was just landing root after root and poking down the enemy with his Q. about 2 mins before this the lucian got hooked by thresh under the enemy turret and he popped the E to essentially trololol away from the enemy adc and thresh and they were unable to attack them since they were moving too fast with the E speed boost.

The part in the video has bunnyfufuu get almost killed under their turret alone then pop E and use its speed to dodge the thresh Q and laugh/walk away from them.

5050BSOct 30, 20192 votes

he got to 130 stacks too.

musixxalOct 30, 20191 votes

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https://youtu.be/BrYA6db53hA?t=726

This is how safe she is in a nutshell.

To anyone who doesn't want to watch the turret. The whole game bunny fufuu was just landing root after root and poking down the enemy with his Q. about 2 mins before this the lucian got hooked by thresh under the enemy turret and he popped the E to essentially trololol away from the enemy adc and thresh and they were unable to attack them since they were moving too fast with the E speed boost.

The part in the video has bunnyfufuu get almost killed under their turret alone then pop E and use its speed to dodge the thresh Q and laugh/walk away from them.

dies literally right after, shouldn't have used the E under the turret there that was a mistake. champ is pretty ordinary, dmg will be lacking.

Fuhrer UsagiOct 31, 20191 votes

He died because he ran back in to try to greed a blue buff of a 3v1 and he had no cds. Look at it, the jg tried to come from behind to 3 man and he W'd rooted and saved the lucian. He then turned around and ran back in for no reason.

Also damage isn't ordinary. Watch the full video. if you didn't notice he has 12 KP by 10 minutes because he was rooting and destroying the botlane. Any time thresh tried to go in he just rooted him and lucian would start attack leading to bunny to use Q and Autos(her Q is a autoattack reset and her autos reduce the Q cd.) to kill him and E to chase him down.

Since she gets a passive boost to her speed from attacking champs and from her E she is faster than everyone else and has alot of chase and kiting potential.

musixxalOct 31, 20191 votes

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He died because he ran back in to try to greed a blue buff of a 3v1 and he had no cds. Look at it, the jg tried to come from behind to 3 man and he W'd rooted and saved the lucian. He then turned around and ran back in for no reason.

Also damage isn't ordinary. Watch the full video. if you didn't notice he has 12 KP by 10 minutes because he was rooting and destroying the botlane. Any time thresh tried to go in he just rooted him and lucian would start attack leading to bunny to use Q and Autos(her Q is a autoattack reset and her autos reduce the Q cd.) to kill him and E to chase him down.

Since she gets a passive boost to her speed from attacking champs and from her E she is faster than everyone else and has alot of chase and kiting potential.

so the champion has died to a gank like any other champion would, is supposedly ahead in the clip, on the pbe no less, and it's somehow representative gameplay. if the champion was so broken then fuufuu outplays that with his E down.

Fuhrer UsagiOct 31, 20191 votes

He did outplay it. He literally turned and around and ran into them with out attacking and without his minion wave. Either he did it for a joke for his video(he does that some times) or he wasn't thinking. That part had nothing to do with the champion and just had to do with stupidity.

And if you forgot that he was 6/0/6 before that at 10 minutes you would know he was outplaying every single gank and was racking up alot of kills since it literally took him inting for them to do anything about it.

musixxalOct 31, 20191 votes

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He did outplay it. He literally turned and around and ran into them with out attacking and without his minion wave. Either he did it for a joke for his video(he does that some times) or he wasn't thinking. That part had nothing to do with the champion and just had to do with stupidity.

And if you forgot that he was 6/0/6 before that at 10 minutes you would know he was outplaying every single gank and was racking up alot of kills since it literally took him inting for them to do anything about it.

tried to dodge jhin w and got hit by thresh q, good outplay.

SaezioOct 30, 20191 votes

Bunny was a pro player and he is not playing customs vs trash players. What did you think was gonna happen? If you go by bunny's videos AP yasuo and AP fiora are broken.

Fuhrer UsagiOct 31, 20191 votes

Which doesn't change much, bunny gets himself killed in alot of his videos. The fact of the matter is that he has stupid amount of movement speed and stupid amounts of escape potential.

With her passive giving a movement speed boost, her root, and her E giving stealth and a speed boost she is literally one of the fastest champs in the botlane.

If you don't want to watch bunny just go search youtube. Filled with videos of people showing how broken it is.

SaezioOct 31, 20191 votes

Well, sorry, but I thought we were talking about how safe she would be in top/mid. Isn't this whole thread about her going to solo lanes?

p.s. I am sure she will be amazing for high elo and pro play, Riot's recent work has been pretty consistent at being bonkers for pro.

Fuhrer UsagiOct 31, 20191 votes

I meant the part where I linked. He was in lane alone under the enemy turret in a 2v1 and was able to simple root then E away. And that was with two people that were cc heavy and a hook champ.

Toplane with her unlimited scaling range and her Q that goes through minions means she could be potentially safe pick. Might not get alot of mists unless you hit the enemy alot but she would be like playing a long range vlad in that you could escape being ganked pretty well.

musixxalOct 30, 20191 votes

you are gonna get fisted lol. enjoy yourself, i hope you aren't sensitive to getting flamed.