When will we EVER see a Irelia Rework?

SaltyToplaneGoat··5 votes·4,289 views

Because IT'S BEEN TO DAMN LONG!

Yeah, I know, she was one of your first "experimental" champs, when you still weren't sure of what a bruiser/fighter should be and what not. But that's no excuse!

Let me add up why her current kit is downright toxic:

  • point and click dash (that alone wouldn't be bad, BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE)

  • mixed damage/true damage

  • POINT AND CLICK CC

(Now let's just add tenacity on this, free sustain and tons of trinity-procs for her ult. Isn't it weird for an ULTIMATE MOVE to ahve most of its power coming from an item?)

There has been a reason "Better nerf Irelia" has been a phrase - because it's DOWNRIGHT IMPOSSIBLE to balance her kit in the current state. Every game a Irelia gets fed... well, you can't do shit. Kite? Lol nope, low cooldown dash, also speed from trinity+phage. Build HP to avoid true damage? Lol nope BORK standart item. Fight her? Lol NOPE - Inbuild sustain and is tanky as fuck while still dealing tons of damage. There is absolutely no chance to react to her or trying to outplay her.

And if she's not fed? Well, then she's pretty much useless. There are only two modes: ON or OFF. This is not how a champ should be deisgned!

On top of that she doesn't even need any special skill apart from basic situation judgement (wich is a skill you need for every champ btw) - every braindead ape can press W, then get on two point and click moves while proceeding to rape the right-mouse-button. Oh right and sometimes press R. Because it's that hard to hit someone with a projective who's standing RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.

Now you say: but dude, EVERY champ is OP when fed. Well, yes the sense of being fed is that you're stronger. But take a look at Gnar for example. Even when fed, he becomes a threat, yes, BUT YOU STILL CAN OUTPLAY HIM. Theoretically that's even possible with Zed (but that dude needs a little bit number tweaking... or maybe that's just an item problem with ArmorPen being too strong). Heck, EVEN LEE SIN offers more counterplay. Yes, I'm dead serious on this.

And on top of THAT, her life kit IS THE LITERAL WORST WASTE OF POTENTIAL THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THIS GAME. Irelia is a unique character, her flying blades opening so many possibilities for awesome and complex mechanics. And yet... she's THIS. (Do people even realize that she's technically undead? Wtf Riot, how could you a) come up with a character so unique, but b) fuck everything over, ignore potential of her Lore and create the most braindead champ since Tryndramere?).

Nerfing her again and again won't solve the problem, because once she's fed it's over, unless you nerf her so far into oblivion that no one would ever play her, and that's not something that should happen. A rework is needed. URGENTLY!

17 Comments

mikemcparty3 votes

Her state is perfectly fine right now. She is completely beatable in lane. You don't push to her tower where she can free farm and then you get ganked and violated.

MotherChurch3 votes

Please no. Irelia is an extremely well liked champion with a high skillcap and health (read close to 50%) win-rate.

ThunderThighs103 votes

As much as I love Irelia, I agree with Morello that she's a toxic design. True damage on such a large scale as her Hiten Style is just disgusting when abused. It's basically a lane where you can't win AA trades while she screams in /all chat "OUTSTAT U". It's not a skill required champion as much as you want to claim that her Bladesurge is hard to manuver to get the reset. Everything about her is point and click and her ult (which is normally a defining moving for a champion) isen't even the focus of her set. Hell her ultimate is terrible, it's only good for waveclear as it does minimal damage and getting those last hits on an enemy running away (which dosen't even happen most of the time because it does such little damage). She's an old champion who dosen't reflect anymore what Riot expects out of how their champions to operate and deserves a rework. Irelia (By the way, for a good solid 4 months I was an Irelia main that would eat, breath, and never play any other champion. Love her but in hindsight there isen't anything truely unique other than her bullshit true damage.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Yo, you are 8 months late, but it's good to see people actually agreeing to that her design is problematic -.-

Leti the Yeti2 votes

only point I agree with is how speshul Irelia could be

floating swords? she could have been the AD counterpart to syndra or oriana but nope, we got uuh.. this?

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Yes, exactly that. What is the point of having her control four floating sword perfectly if all she does with it is a) whacking them all together into the enemies face or b) just shoot them out?

it is indeed on of the worst theme-to-gameplay translations in this game.

Légs1 votes

Hahaha so true, she doesn't even shoot THOSE blades out.

she just summon 4 random ass blades.

soo mad omg.

antymattar2 votes

I agree with you wholeheartedly. So much that I even logged in and decided to necro this thread. No idea why anyone would downvote what you said, as it is just as true now as it was when you posted it.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Yer a bit late tho ^^

Légs2 votes

And on top of THAT, her life kit IS THE LITERAL WORST WASTE OF POTENTIAL THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THIS GAME. Irelia is a unique character, her flying blades opening so many possibilities for awesome and complex mechanics. And yet... she's THIS. (Do people even realize that she's technically undead? Wtf Riot, how could you a) come up with a character so unique, but b) fuck everything over, ignore potential of her Lore and create the most braindead champ since Tryndramere?).

COULD NOT AGREE MORE.

R I O T P L S

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Oh wow, better bring up a counter argument instead of dragging out my match history. ^^

That match was just the PRIME example. Of course it wasn't JUST because of irelia that we lost, no no, don't get me wrong on that. but yet again I came to realize how toxic her design is. And maybe it motivated me to actually make this thread. How does that matter? If I lose a game vs a Lee Sin am I suddenly not allowed to discuss about his obvious design flaws? Your logic is rather flawed here mate ^^

If a champ can run in 1vs5 and then even get out full HP... you see the problem here?

Gigahappytown1 votes

Most ball of stat champs like irelia need reworks ball of stats are just awful to play against and you feel like you lost to the champ not the player.

ChargeItDownMid1 votes

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SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Guys. Do youn know how old this thread is? Go make a fresh one and stop digging up this corpse <_<'

Khaziki

Some other champions are so op and u are stuck on irelia ?And yes i am an irelia main but anyway ok i agree she is op, but: 1.She needs a little bit of a skill to be played well, as i said there are some other too op champions, but they usually dont need skill, just a tiny little bit of decision making and boom u climbed,I am talking about champions like garen, Full tank and still so muh damage, full tank with black cleaver and has so much sustain with Q and he gets his passive he just dunks everyone and gg, yorick with the sustain, the 2billion dmg which is not even a skillshot so you cant dodge it, illaoi press W, R and boom won teamfight, in lane press E and Q maybe W and there goes the enemy's half health 2.As i said before, yes irelia is op, but needs a little skill,if it goes like that then riven is op u know why ? Cause she is skilled, now irelia ofc doesnt need that much skill as a riven but u get it, right ?It's not like garen playing with one finger and winning lane. I am not saying irelia is not op, i am saying that 1. she needs skill 2. there are more op champions to nerf. Btw i am currently gold 4, its just my opinion.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

You just replied to a 2+ year old thread. Congratulations.

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