So Riot Made Lethality Broken.. What A Surprise

Mannny·Feb 12, 2017·14 votes·2,643 views

Riot Before season 7:

We want to make ADCs build more crit instead of armor pen, so we are changing armor pen all together!

Riot after Assassin Update:

We are buffing Lethality To make it more useful

and once again ADCs build Lethality and it's super op. This isn't a suprise, it literally happened right before season 7. Riot is simply buffing things for certain champions and not thinking about the effect it will have on everything else. Stop buffing random stuff just because it isn't doing too hot and then wondering why it's op on the SAME ADCS THAT ABUSED IT LAST SEASON. Think Riot, think.

15 Comments

ZephyrDrakeFeb 12, 20173 votes

yeah, how dare assassins not build the stat when it was garbage! Riot should have def not done anything about it and just let the stat be a complete waste of time and have assassins just don't bother building the stat that was made specifically for them

MannnyFeb 12, 20174 votes

I'm trying to say don't blindly buff it knowing it was a huge issue for ADCs last season. At least look into the problem and see what can be done before buffing it because it's clearly no surprise ADCs abuse it once again.

ZephyrDrakeFeb 12, 20171 votes

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I'm trying to say don't blindly buff it knowing it was a huge issue for ADCs last season. At least look into the problem and see what can be done before buffing it because it's clearly no surprise ADCs abuse it once again.

so screw assassins and leave the stat to be a complete waste of time? got it. Sorry but when assassins don't bother with building their own stat and need to go for something else that means that the stat itself needs to be looked at. It was way too weak early so they buffed the early game of it. Some ADCs literally disappeared because they don't like crit builds or because their entire kit just doesn't go well with those builds. Early focused ADCs do not want crit builds since crit is a late game stat so it contradicts what they themselves are supposed to do. ADCs are not abusing the stat, sorry to burst your bubble but just because they build something that does not have crit in it does not mean that they are abusing the item or stat or whatever. Some ADCs scale better with lethality while others prefer crit and others prefer CDR with tons of AD.

It's like this stupid myth that not a single ADC should be allowed to 1v1 anyone... except that there are plenty of ADCs that excel in 1v1s but are terrible teamfighters like Lucian, Vayne and even Draven

MannnyFeb 12, 20174 votes

So you're saying the top 3 ADCs all building lethality has nothing to do with lethality being broken???? lmao k

ZephyrDrakeFeb 12, 20171 votes

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So you're saying the top 3 ADCs all building lethality has nothing to do with lethality being broken???? lmao k

Jhin much rather get lethality than crit if he wants an early game spike. MF has next to no use with crit so ofc she will do well with lethality. Lethality before was absolutely terrible and now it's finally decent. I wouldn't mind being 50% upfront lethality value and the rest be scaling instead of the 60% it is now but when it was 40% no one bothered with it

MaeDoSanFeb 12, 20172 votes

is lethatlity really op or is it placebo effect ?

CancerBasedGodFeb 12, 20171 votes

It's RoTM (Rage of The Month)

MaeDoSanFeb 12, 20171 votes

Has anyone done the calculation or was everyone just surprised that after the buff adc's started buying all 3 pen items and shit on them ?

CancerBasedGodFeb 12, 20171 votes

Lol! The mob doesn't do calculations! All the lethality buff was was a little buff to the early game. Previous patch everyone was shouting about how useless ADCs are early, now they get a small buff and everyone is shouting about how OP ADCs are, and how they take out fictionally large amounts of health.

MannnyFeb 12, 20172 votes

I had no problem with ADCs last patch. I had a problem with first blood turret and I still do, but ADCs like Jhin who scale well into late game having a good early game too with this Lethality buff makes no sense.

DoktorKaiserFeb 13, 20172 votes

And the said problem has the easiest fucking fix in the entire world - MAKE LETHALITY ITEMS MELEE ONLY FFS !!!!!!!!!! JUST DO IT ALREADY !!!!! But still even with ADC not abusing lethality, someone like Riven does and that needs to be adressed as well.

RlP K0BEFeb 12, 20171 votes

I love the changes, Zed feels so much better with them. Just reduce it for ranged champions

BryBry78Feb 13, 20171 votes

I think lethality seems very strong. I don't think the problem is with lethality in itself. What it does is makes ad champion very strong, especially vs tanks. AP champ don't have this counter vs tanks. There are 6 different items that reduce armor, but only 3 that reduce MR. (i'm not counting Wit's End because that item is pretty much crap on every champ). That along with the fact there are 3 ad items that give MR. AD champs are looking really strong right now.

xToxicOsirisxFeb 13, 20171 votes

How about instead of punishing everybody who uses lethality, you buff crit so it isn't so painful to use this season due to snowballing or make changes to reduce snowballing. The only reason ADCs take lethality these days is because it has an earlier power spike than crit and games are almost always decided before 20 minutes.

However, ADCs who take lethality sacrifice their sustained damage in favor of higher damage abilities and single auto attacks. Lethality is also less effective against tanks or anybody that stacks large amounts of armor. There is definitely a noticeable damage loss late game vs crit builds.

Want to know how to deal with lethality? Start taking a frontline to the game and protect your damn crit adc. Stop taking your selfish ass botlane mage into lane cause you got autofilled support and wanted to play mid. That mage ain't gonna do shit against the Jhin ulting your ass or the MF chunking you and your adc for half your health. Start taking the classes that are actually meant to deal with assassins and lethality ADCs.

Stop punishing ADCs for trying to have an impact in the game in a meta where they have no say in the game until they have 3-4 items.