Karma prevents any sort of interaction in lane as well as dealing a ton of damage

She got nerfed. and nerfed and nerfed

Wait, a 10 second cd shield that absorbs 70 damage prevents any sort of interaction in lane?! Unless you max it, of course, but then her damage is gonna be very low.

Idc if win rate doesn't mean everything, she has a 47.88% winrate in the support role with a 7.25% play rate, which ranks her 22/25 in terms of win rate in the support role (that's considering that #25 is lux support with a tiny play rate and #23 is bard support, which takes a decent amount of skill to do well with him). How is that OP? And there's nothing broken in her kit, unless you think that the fact that she can root you for a whooping 1 second in lane after being in close range for 2 seconds is broken.

She's clearly balanced. Unless you want her to be like Taliyah or Azir.

as well as dealing a ton of damage

She deals average damage for a mage support, and below average when played as a midlaner according to the statistics.

I don't see any outliers in her statistics that indicate she's in need of a nerf.

Janna does the same thing except takes zero skill to play, whereas Karma does.

Put shield on your Draven, now he gets a free BF sword and tanks any retaliation.

Jungle come to stop you? Press R.

I'm still surprised people want Karma's damage nerfed... I mean they removed all her damage on W and E to make her W snare for longer and her E a large shield...

She is a mage first, a support second. Is going to get nerfed? His a good support, but thats a secondary role, not his primary role like Karma.

Another thing to mention is that Karma's damage falls off late game because she has no real ultimate and whenever she has ultimate up as a support, she will almost always use it on her shield and not her Q.

Does she still do the ridiculous AP bruiser/shield+Heal build that throws everyone that tries to fight her on tilt or was that corrected?

She needs to be reworked. Her kit is horribly outdated and detached as a result. Bring back some of that Yin-Yang interaction.

Yet another topic I made months ago that got downvoted and ignored. Love this forum.

She needs a rework after we finish with more important stuff like .

In lane? what lane? mid or bot?

She gets ripped apart against most bot lanes....

Her speedboost is little annoying. You can't catch a good Karma...

Guessing you just played against tank karma top

She's based on poke, which basically means no engaging, and just staying in the back and dealing dmg without putting yourself at any risk. It's annoying, but it's how she works. She lacks hard cc, peel, mobility, escapes, and tankiness.

Same gimmick with caitlyn, you don't have to commit much; just abuse your range to AA and use your traps and just stay in the back.

Teemo, mini-gnar, also do that in top lane.

Karma's huge problem is that she can close gaps with her E and literally put you on a leash. If you can't escape from it, you're inevitably going to take massive burst damage from her Mantra-empowered Q both on bot lane and mid lane. Her kit builds up perfectly into one annoying "I will trade burst damage and you will barely trade anything because my shield blocks it" combination.

I'm not sure whether you are coming at this from the perspective of a mid laner or a support, but in either case, you are wrong.

Karma does not prevent interaction. Preventing interaction would be something like Morgana, whose Q and E are the definition of uninteractive. Every one of Karma's abilities can be played around. Her shield is weak early, on a long cooldown, and does nothing to prevent CC. Her Q is dodgable, and since its her only damage source you can always retaliate when she pokes. Her CC is after a long delay and requires her to close enough for you to do damage to her.

Her damage is also not that high. All of it is in Q, which while unempowered is just fairly average for a damaging ability, both in base damage and scaling, and which only has a miniscule AoE. Most of the bonus damage from RQ is loaded into the easily avoidable explosion.

Karma's damage has been the same for SEASONS now....She has never been a problem then. Why would she be a problem now?

Goodbye.

I mean there's a number of champs that can beat her. Look at Blitz and how he's toxic to bot lane, when's he getting nerfed? Or Yasuo? Or Zed?

Point is, there are other champions that are just as strong if not stronger and seem to rarely get nerfs if ever.

Are you talking about bot or mid?

Because as a mid champ, she's safe, yes - but she doesn't nearly deal the same amount of damage as a proper mage. Her wave clear is okay, but not great. Her greatest utility is kite and reverse-engage, but she's nowhere near the level of Janna, Lulu, Zilean. Karma has good poke, but not as strong as Zyra's or Sona's.

Karma's strength is that she's a generalist - can spend her ult to adapt to most situations - but I wouldn't say that she's an uninteractive character. Soraka is uninteractive because she eliminates trades. Karma not so.

I think a little clarity on her tether range would be a good start. Something similar to morgana's ult, because I'm sure I'm not the only one who has no clue how far I have to go to break it. Also, the hit-box on her q doesn't really match the actual skill-shot particle, so they could make that more clear as well.

be happy you aint facing old karma before her rework... i use to rofl stomp all over people with that bitch

Wait what??????? im so confused here. This is about Karma right? The same Karma that people just weeks ago was complaining that her last nerf ruined her blah blah blah and blah blah more right?

But now a post saying shes needs a nerf and its geting up votes.

Com on people make up your mid....either shes too weak or too strong...cant be both...get off the bandwagons and think for yourselves.