When will Irelia get a legitimate nerf?

SquashCannon·Jul 31, 2016·6 votes·1,244 views

Her kit is fine, so is her passive. Just nerf the idiotic damage. Revert Q buff or something.

The new tri force changes have been hilariously forgiving for her.

17 Comments

ADepressedLeonaJul 31, 20162 votes

Her kit is most certainly not fine

SkiasJul 31, 20161 votes

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Her kit is most certainly not fine

Her kit was never fine. It's a pack of steroids on legs that walks around top lane.

Lord DesertJul 31, 20162 votes

What part of her dmg is idiotic (aka too much) in your eyes? Q: 20-140 + 120%Ad , but irelia doesnt build any/much ad. and Q is maxed last so its more like 20+ 120%Ad which is basicly only a AA reset in best cases.... _ W: 13/26 Hp heal + 15-75 true dmg on AA._ The 13 hp is basicly a Free vampcepter at level 9 but with no scaling, her truedmg is flat and cant be increased and is AA depend, so no AAs = no dmg + 15 sec cd which doesnt go down. Build a randuins first and you cut irelias dmg output by ~50% or more.

E: 80-240 + 60%Ap. Irelia doesnt build ap. Her ONLY CC, can be reduced/removed, single target, melee, 8sec cd and has a %hp condition. If you think this is op, then im sorry to tell you but you are blind and have no sense of balance at all. Sorry for the hard words, but its true. Twisted fate has a 2 sec targeted, RANGED, 6 sec cd WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS!!! and absolutly nobody crys for nerfs left and right...

R: 320-640 +240%bonus Ad +200% Ap, again she doesnt build Ad or Ap. This is the only ability that does "normal" dmg compared to other ults. But sadly its heals and dmg is reduced by armor, which everybody has ~70 late and irelia doesnt build arpen ether.

So lets look at the t3f changes: lost 20% crit, gained 25% AS and 10% cdr. Cdr is always nice but not essential on irelia. the 25% AS is ~0.15 increase and means that the old does 4 AAs and the new does 5. in the same time frame.

Lets say she has an AS of ~1, old does 6 AAs in here W timeframe, new does 7,5(everything is rounded down because there are no half AAs). So she only gained 1 W true dmg and 1 AA. BUT the old T3f could crit. and in 6 AAs there is 100% 1 crit. and a crit is basicly 1 extra AA. So she only got the 1 W truedmg extra and only if you only crit ONCE! So the new t3f only helps her in longer fights, but not to burst someone. So technically this change was a NERF to bursting people down...

Did i forget any "OP" dmges or so? She has 0 poke, no shields/instaheals, no utility buffs(AS/MS buffs/steals, terrain, slows/snears etc., MR/AR/AD buff/debuffs), only enemy dash, and has only single target truedmg, which is non scaling and AA depending(her sustain is AA depending too, which is not good, this can potentianally screw you over) Irelia is one, if not, THE balanced Champ in LoL.

AnimusvsAnimaJul 31, 20161 votes

You forgot one big, important factor about her Q. She procs onhit effects with it. It does a lot of burst, even if she levels it last.

Lord DesertJul 31, 20161 votes

... its an AA reset .... and every(most) ability can be used to trigger sheen, so the dmg does not come from her Q but from her items. Her 75 truedmg onhit is only "big" at level9-11 after that everybody has enough hp or has build hp. her Q only does 20-140 + 120% ad dmg , basicly like nasus Q at 20 stacks or so.

specter424Jul 31, 20161 votes

When sales on Irelia slow down

NinjaGuy69Jul 31, 20161 votes

The chances of her getting a nerf in the near future are as about as low as the chances of Riot NOT releasing a super-expensive money grab skin for one of their cash cows (i.e. Ahri, Lee Sin, etc) within the next 6 months.

ApocalypsicJul 31, 20163 votes

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The chances of her getting a nerf in the near future are as about as low as the chances of Riot NOT releasing a super-expensive money grab skin for one of their cash cows (i.e. Ahri, Lee Sin, etc) within the next 6 months.

A company making something nice for something a lot of people enjoy, how horrible. What a poor business decision and how dare they.

NinjaGuy69Jul 31, 20161 votes

A company making something nice for something a lot of people enjoy, how horrible. What a poor business decision and how dare they.

Let me fix that for you.

"A company (that sold themselves to a Chinese telecommunications giant named TenCent for billions of dollars) making something passable that a lot of people enjoy while neglecting many other more important parts of their game (such as balance and hiring more staff to increase their rate of champion updates), how disgraceful. What a shrew business model and how dare they."

Kid, you don't know shit so don't talk like you know shit. Riot is an expert at pulling the wool over the eyes of naive sheeple such as yourself who accept things as they are instead of trying to challenge Riot to make things the way _they should be. _

ApocalypsicJul 31, 20161 votes

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Let me fix that for you.

"A company (that sold themselves to a Chinese telecommunications giant named TenCent for billions of dollars) making something passable that a lot of people enjoy while neglecting many other more important parts of their game (such as balance and hiring more staff to increase their rate of champion updates), how disgraceful. What a shrew business model and how dare they."

Kid, you don't know shit so don't talk like you know shit. Riot is an expert at pulling the wool over the eyes of naive sheeple such as yourself who accept things as they are instead of trying to challenge Riot to make things the way _they should be. _

Jeez, calm down. We're not in the Matrix. It's a damn company, they make business decisions that not everyone is gonna like.

In a perfect world sure everyone can be happy, but it's not a perfect world.

Best to learn to enjoy what you have, and if it isn't league then find something else, simple as that.

NinjaGuy69Jul 31, 20161 votes

In a perfect world sure everyone can be happy, but it's not a perfect world.

Best to learn to enjoy what you have, and if it isn't league then find something else, simple as that.

Oh I enjoy the game to a degree, Neo. But you have to understand that many people don't. I was simply saying that the game could be a lot better than it already is, especially if Riot actually took the suggestions and feedback on this board seriously.

Riot can't make Summoner's Rift great again just by introducing a champion who can build walls. The first step to solving a problem is admitting you have one. The second step is to actually give a shit. Unfortunately, Riot refuses to do either of these two things. I'd like to believe that they'll change their ways eventually, but I've been playing this game long enough to know that it'll probably never happen. Unlucky rubber ducky, Neo.

CerealBoxOfDoomJul 31, 20161 votes

why nerf her, show some data

LadyRenlyJul 31, 20161 votes

she already got hard nerfed recently

ÇhåryzårdJul 31, 20161 votes

I always love a champ with multiple gap closers so you can burn everything you got and flash and still die [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Akali is SO HOTJul 31, 20161 votes

She has a big nerf to her passive on the PBE right now ya doof

SquashCannonJul 31, 20161 votes

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She has a big nerf to her passive on the PBE right now ya doof

And I don't have an issue with her passive retard.

WoonStruckJul 31, 20161 votes

Don't need to nerf her Q if they nerf her base damage.

Lowers her synergy with TF (both attack speed and sheen procs) a little bit while also hitting her Q damage. Those are both the biggest issues when it comes to Irelia right now.