after the qss nerf. on a bruiser, how do you deal with trundle now?

Critmaster Garen··2 votes·281 views

not even executioners was enough. i used to build item 3140 to counter his ult and stop him from completely walking over me by draining health and resistances.

but this isnt an option anymore, so what now?

i feel like building anything defensive would just completely fuck over my team.

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Marshbouy1 votes

Tank shred. Kite. Get him locked down by your teammates. Bait him out of his frozen domain. he really isn't that great, no hard CC and a slow with a fair amount of outplay ability.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Tank shred. Kite. Get him locked down by your teammates. Bait him out of his frozen domain. he really isn't that great, no hard CC and a slow with a fair amount of outplay ability.

ok, this is teamfights. and its really assuming you have a specific adc on your team.

and the enemy has an adc too. it can take longer to take down trundle than it takes for them to blow up our team with that ult.

its actually a problem i had at all stages of the game. what the hell do i do? he heals up extremely fast after every trade by healing up on a minion wave and his frozen ground, passive and lifesteal. so damage doesnt stick.

i cant build defenses against him since im just giving him more ammunition. this is a problem that gets worse in teamfights, as im required to build defense as a bruiser to act in a fight. but if i do im also making him tanky which means he has an easier time to dive into our team.

playing against trundle feels like it locks you out of any sort of defensive itemization and like im making myself a liability to my team if i get any form of defense anyways.

Marshbouy1 votes

Thats literally all just QQ nonsense. Go back to what i said. if you can't do that then you didn't deserve to be trundle anyway.

Abyssphere1 votes

Depends what stage of the game you're talking about. If you mean laning phase then it's all about disengaging after he ults and re-engaging after, no? But he doesn't feel particularly weak without ult given how strong he is right now so good luck with that.

I imagine Garen has no tools at all to deal with Trundle.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

this not a qq thread. im genuinely asking for advise how to counteplay his kit.

AramsAreBest1 votes

What does his ult do

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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What does his ult do

it steals 20% to 35% of your max health over a certain duration.

it also steals 40% of your resistances. half of it instantly, and the other half over the course of the drain. its also direct target, so no possibility to dodge.

and his q gives him 20 to 40 attack damage, steals half of it from his opponent and is on a 3 second cooldown. i can deal with this i guess. it does make hima bitch to trade with, but its not horrible.

but you can see my dilemma. build health and armor against him, and hes just going to turn it against you or your own team.

i mean the only choice really would just be to stack up straight damage it seems, but you cant really afford that on most bruisers, considering youll have to fight 5v5 or skirmishes at some point.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

cant we at least have some sort of middle ground, where we get somehow a gameplay option of cleansing the resistance debuff and health drain on ourselves, but he keeps the resistances he has stolen up until that point for the duration of the ult?

i understand that just being able to remove the ult with a push of a button wasnt fair to trundle. but the complete inability to deal with it isnt fair either.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

you cant hes bullshit. nobody melee can deal with him. and a lot of ranged can't I mean i saw a trundle just tank turret for like 12 seconds against a kennen the other day after ulting hes stupid as hell

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