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Vistha Kai9 votes

Of course she will have a bad winrate.

She isn't a faceroll champion anymore and all those "Fiora mains" fail horribly playing her now.

Look at the build. Full glass cannon with GA as a defensive item. lmao.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

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Of course she will have a bad winrate.

She isn't a faceroll champion anymore and all those "Fiora mains" fail horribly playing her now.

Look at the build. Full glass cannon with GA as a defensive item. lmao.

and there was worse win rate after rework remember ryze 39 and cass 40%

67chrome6 votes

LeeSin Lucian Elise Orianna all had ~40% win-rates on their release. They were all widely regarded as useless by the community. I distinctly remember posts complaining about how Lucian was the single worst marksman in the game, and most of the forum goes seemed to share that sentiment.

Then pros played 30+ games on those champions, got good with them, showed them off in tournaments, and it turned out they were pretty broken and strong.

With Fiora's new kit? It i's going to take the more standard 30+ games with her for players to really get a solid feel of where she stands, because her Riposte and passive/ultimate mechanics quite obviously require some solid skill to use now.

If her win-rate wasn't terrible, there would be a big problem.

Catastrop1 votes

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Orianna

There was a time when my baby was useless!?!?!Gasp(not to say I'm an Orianna main, just that this is one of my favourite champions ever)

Sakura Mirage4 votes

Fiora is now the queen of unreliable.

Julius Evola1 votes

Exactly. They took an unreliable champ and made her into something toxic and unreliable.

Dracid3 votes

not a fan of her ult at all. it barely does any extra damage. its literally just for the heal which doesnt fit with her theme at all and makes it almost useless in lane

NERDSMASHER50013 votes

Wow! It's almost like brand new champions that everyone is playing for the first time are going to have bad winrates before people actually get used to them!

NemeBro2 votes

She literally just came out, lol. Kalista's win rate tanked a couple or so patches ago badly, but once people figured out how to work with the slight changes to her kit, her win rate normalized.

Dracid2 votes

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She literally just came out, lol. Kalista's win rate tanked a couple or so patches ago badly, but once people figured out how to work with the slight changes to her kit, her win rate normalized.

i dont think it will go up much. overall her rework for laning was a nerf, she has an escape now which is nice but her damage is alot lower with the ult change. she went from being a good duelist to being better in teamfights with her massive heal

AtheosisX2 votes

If her win rate wasn't terrible right now I'd be worried.

junglerboy162 votes

she's a high skillcap late game melee carry, of course her win rate is gonna be bad when she just got relaunched basically with tear-down level kit rework.

Julius Evola1 votes

Her new kit is simpler than her old kit. The only difference is the silly duck-duck-goose game.

junglerboy161 votes

Old Kit:

  • Passive sustain
  • Targeted dash
  • Defensive damage return
  • Simple stat steroid
  • Targeted omni-slash (with un-targetability to boot)

New Kit:

  • Passive sustain/damage requiring thoughtful positioning
  • Semi-targeted dash
  • Defensive damage return skillshot
  • Steroid
  • High damage+heal ultimate (requires really good positioning)
Baunjo2 votes

most people arent a god when they first pick up a champion.

lightdragoon881 votes

That doesn't stop people from bitching sadly. :(

LongHair Fox1 votes

You have to take into account that her lane shifted considerably. Maybe even all the way to how you build her with full damage possibly not being the best thing and her teamfights has also changed to something else which it is impossible to predict right now.

Well enough rambling just saying that nothing is certain yet.

Shroom Junkie1 votes

She was just recently reworked and made pretty different. New playstyle, new mechanics, its not that she's UP its just that people don't know how to play her.

BlackEyesBlue1 votes

I haven't lost a lane or a game w/ Fiora since her re-work! (7-0) :P

I was fairly indifferent to old Fiora, but new one?, She's awesome!! I like champs that are strong if played well and weak if played dumb!

She's new, I'm sure once people learn how to use her properly, she'll be a force! :D

Julius Evola1 votes

I checked your account. You are playing at a bronze level....

XElite1091 votes

Are they gonna change her difficulty meter cause its wrong to say the bitch is easy now like get that shit closer to max at least. don't lie to the people

Thresh Outta Fux1 votes

It's really that everyone expects so much BS out of her that they don't even want to deal with her, and pick hard counters like crazy.

I don't play Morde. But when I do, it's because I don't want to deal with Fiora. Shove my lane, die a few times, win the game.

It's like being paired up with a Riven, Shyvana, or post-rework Ahri. In those cases, I'm going to bring something like Malzahar for Riven, Shaco to counterjungle Shyvana, and Gangplank to not feed Ahri. Because I'm not playing this game to deal with their shit.

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