@Riot: The boards might only show a minority of the playerbase...

SaltyToplaneGoat··5 votes·1,106 views

... but we are the most active and dedicated players.

We are the ones streaming and making videos.

We are the ones making guides and helping new players.

We are the ones running the blogs for fanart and fanfiction - or the ones roleplaying.

We are the ones dedicated enough to even comission fanart and pay artists for that.

This is the core of your playerbase. Pretty much what makes this community. Disregard them and what do you have? A bunch of causals that maybe watch some Esports but couldn't care less for the game and will wander on the moment a new fancy game pops up. And all that while giving absolutly nothing back. Oh sure, they pay some cash for skins or boosts, but that's it. They are not producing any content for this community to gather around. Heck, they are probably not even going to engage in the community at all.

So maybe if there entire board won't shut up about some truly unpopular decisions, such as dynamic queue or certain balance failures, you might want to listen to it. Because once they are gone, you're on the best way to become a dead game. With only a few causals and some esport tryhards playing.

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xl Kirito lx6 votes

If Riot listened to these boards, Zed would be removed, Riven would have her shins broken, and Fizz would be gutted. And those are the popular ones. Half of Riot's employees would be gone, simply because they made a bad call.

Don't get me wrong, I want Riot to listen to the boards. I just don't want them anywhere near G5&B boards.

ModWulf Helhammer4 votes

Actually, the boards are not that. Most of those people are on Reddit (not interacting with the boards), or just don't use either (I know plenty of content creators tend to just stay away from Reddit completely)

Streeton3 votes

So what your saying is that anyone who isnt on boards is a casual? If so what's wrong with being a casual?

The Blue Jelly3 votes

He's saying that the people on the boards are the only ones that actually care. Actually want to see the game do well. And that the constant ignoring of feedback is a very big reason why this game bleeds veterans as hard as it does.

Streeton3 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Blue Jelly,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UVhZcpx0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-05-06T03:10:24.195+0000)

He's saying that the people on the boards are the only ones that actually care. Actually want to see the game do well. And that the constant ignoring of feedback is a very big reason why this game bleeds veterans as hard as it does.

  1. you have no evidence to support your claim.
  2. most of the time the riot listened to the boards it turned out to be terrible, remember when how everyone said how duskblade was gonna be so op and riot made a mistake, and how riot should nerf it immediately. Turns out duskblade is pure shite, and nerfing it would have made it even worse.
Muted Summoner2 votes

{quoted}

  1. you have no evidence to support your claim.
  2. most of the time the riot listened to the boards it turned out to be terrible, remember when how everyone said how duskblade was gonna be so op and riot made a mistake, and how riot should nerf it immediately. Turns out duskblade is pure shite, and nerfing it would have made it even worse.

Oh but it isn't for Zed for awhile.

Streeton2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mute Scarecrow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UVhZcpx0,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-06T03:21:30.357+0000)

Oh but it isn't for Zed for awhile.

nope, pretty bad item on zed unless you are really ahead.

The Blue Jelly1 votes

Evidence they care? It's the fact that they bother trying to discuss it. Evidence Rito ignores feedback?

Well... I don't have any evidence. Nor do I remember what you're on about. This game went in a balance direction at some point in Season 3 that started to just sap the fun from it for me. So I now only play with friends, generally either bots or whatever fun mode is out. And since they pronounced Dominion dead instead of giving me hope they might revive it one day, I have even less of a reason to bother trying to maintain at least some level of de-rusted.

So yes, any evidence I have is from long before these "boards" were even a thing, and anything I have that is evidence is a moot point by now as it was so long ago.

Shit, I'm only on right now because I wanted to see if anyone else was upset that the Siege Mage playstyle was restricted to Lux and Orianna with the mage update.

LordGeovanni1 votes

dusk blade isnt shit its just isnt noticeable because assassins are never bad and its hard to notice unless you are a tankier than a squishy character

Imperatricis2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kyoki Shinkuro,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UVhZcpx0,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-06T02:55:51.935+0000) And all that while giving absolutly nothing back. Oh sure, they pay some cash for skins or boosts, but that's it.

And that is literally all they care about, it's moolah flowing into their pockets that really matters from a business stand point, and in the end that is what riot is, a business, and so they dont give a flying fck if you don't have anything other than money to offer

The Blue Jelly1 votes

Wait there's lore still? I thought it was officially dead what with Aurelion Sol's four-sentence "backstory".

EDIT: So apparently the client lore is migrating towards a small blerb now, and full lore's on the website. The More You Know.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

FYI (because apparently you don't know this has been going on for a while): full lore for champions is on the website. What's on the client is just a short bio that tells people who the champion is.

There have been two multi-part lore drops, as well as long form lore for Shen, Zed, Leona, Diana, Pantheon, Azir, Xerath, TF, Graves, Gangplank, Miss Fortune, in addition to all the new champs (and relaunches), with lore for Sivir, Renekton, Nasus, Skarner, Amumu, and Rammus coming soon.

The Blue Jelly1 votes

Oh shit, really? Well then. That's a bit less bad. Would it kill them to slap a link to it into the client to make it obvious, then?

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Client is old and has problems.

The Blue Jelly1 votes

But they could at least add some form of "For the full story, see the website." Obviously better phrased, but I digress.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Quick correction to my earlier post: Zed hasn't gotten new lore. Got it confused in my head with the Jhin color text story on his lore. Shen did get new lore though

Billy VoHagen1 votes

Or, you know, there are other people who do these things? That don't use cancer boards?

Blue Vanity1 votes

Reminds me of Jagex. Right before RuneScape went bankrupt they started turning on their forum regulars by calling them the "vocal minority" Really bad idea for a company to insult their most concerned customers. Expect LoL to be dead soon.

Fovere1 votes

I'm sure there are plenty of Rioters who see these posts and hear them, but ultimately its not really up to them.

Business are top down structures and if the ones at the top want things a certain way, that's how it's going to be. And they aren't likely very concerned with outcry on the forums

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