This community does not understand how conqueror works

Bears Dont Care·12/26/2018, 8:49:04 PM·1 votes·1,020 views

Everyone goes, ONFG DAMAGE IS 20% TRUE. ARMOR USELESS!

This thinking is incorrect and inaccurate and you should feel bad. Conqueror CONVERTS 20% of all damage dealt into true damage.

So, let us say you have 65 ad. Your opponent has 100 armor for 50% physical damage reduction. So every hit will be for about 33 damage. Now let us say conqueror procs in this moment. You gain 35 ad at level 18 so you go to 100 ad.

So your physical hit would be for 50. Now we convert the damage. You hit for 40 physical damage and 10 true damage.

Now this is at 100 armor for 50% damage reduction.

Let us bump armor up to reduce physical damage by 75%.

Now each physical damage hit would be 25 damage. When you convert 20% into true damage, the damage you deal is now.

20 physical damage and 5 true damage.

Your armor is still having an effect, it does reduce the true damage that is being outputted.

But wait beats dont care, isn't that the same as leaving it physical damage!?

Not quite exactly. Remember it is 20% of all damage being dealt, which is why on champions such as Italia and yi it hurts so badly. Many abilities also work off ratios or create damage enhancement effects which in turn affect.conqueror.

This is why it appears problematic. Since it is a conversion, it is affected by damage enhancement and damage mitigation unlike other forms of true damage which are independent.

Now of I am incorrect on some of this do advise me, but the issue is not conqueror explicitly. It is a symptom of the already high damage.

Without conqueror you would find many champions having issues with viability. Yasuo and Irelia would not be affected.

10 Comments

GFREEMEN12/27/2018, 12:39:30 AM3 votes

True damage is calculated before armor from what I understand

Spicy Rice12/27/2018, 4:52:04 PM2 votes

Your math is off. If this is the way it worked, it would have no effect except a cosmetic one.

It calculates premitigation damage, doing 20% of that as true damage, while the rest is properly mitigated

MagicFlyingLlama12/26/2018, 9:01:00 PM1 votes

What a shit troll post.

Anyone who has ever used it can tell this is completely wrong, plus anyone who understands how LoL works can tell it is completely wrong as well. It is devoid of logic.

For anyone wondering, it applies to 20% of your base damage, before any form of resistances. It does not scale in any other way.

The entire team12/26/2018, 10:03:33 PM1 votes

I'm pretty sure it granted you pretty paltry bonus AD based on level as well as converting 20% of all your damage into true damage.

Had to read the specifics on the actual rune.