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Please, PLEASE do not give Singed a % max health damage

iTams·3/13/2015, 8:06:05 PM·7 votes·1,903 views

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/03/313-pbe-update.html#more

Singed

  • Fling (E) damage lowered to 50/65/80/95/110 from 80/125/170/215.
  • Fling (E) now also deals 6/6.5/7/7.5/8% of targets Maximum health (max 300 bonus damage against minions and monsters)

Of all things you can do for Singed, this is not even close to what you should do.

Sure, it will make him a better jungler, but there is a 99% chance that it will become a problem later on, resulting in the rest of his kit to be nerfed. % health damage is extremely hard to balance (see: Vayne, Nidalee, Elise, etc), so it should be avoided at all possibilities. I do not want to see an original champion be changed and nerfed because of something as stupid as this being put into his kit.

Guinsoo would never allow something like this to change on his champion.

(I know it is in PBE, but might as well try to talk them out of it early)

12 Comments

InSingedWeTrust3/13/2015, 8:16:26 PM3 votes

MR/level please. That's ALL he needs. And maybe some lower mana costs on fling.

Talamare3/13/2015, 9:00:55 PM2 votes

6~8% max hp every 10 seconds is not overpowered, and won't even be a noticeable amount to be honest

Elise can't be balanced because her entire kit is based on % damage damage

Its a good change, but not insanity

Zarxis3/13/2015, 9:07:10 PM2 votes

Singed is better off without % health damage on his E. If Riot wants him to do more damage with it, let him have his old E AP ratio back. The point of Singed's E isn't the damage, anyway; it's the flip. You generally want to flip vulnerable targets towards your team (if your team can take them down, I mean), and you want to flip dangerous enemies away from your team. You're not meant to repeatedly flip tanks around to wear them down; Singed buys Liandry's (or Void Staff, if you're feeling lucky) when he wants to wear down tanks. I don't want Singed to get nerfed because of this change to his kit. If there's any small buff that would help Singed without making him overbearing, it would be returning the Tenacity his ultimate used to give. That would help him against high-CC tanks without giving him % health damage and therefore risking his balance.

TheFrozenIsles3/13/2015, 9:13:31 PM1 votes

I sort of agree. I what them to do some thing to Singed as I what to play him more but not some thing like this. I would love if they do some thing else.No idea what.

Kingsgrave3/13/2015, 11:25:00 PM1 votes

If they have more than 2000 health you do more damage to them with Fling than on Live.

I don't see the problem with this honestly. His Fling is his only source of instant damage and is pretty short range.

COWmanLord3/13/2015, 11:30:51 PM1 votes

I don't know I kinda like the change on him. It wouldn't hurt to buff signed a little bit, and this would be a good way of doing it. This way singed has at least a small way to trade when he can't just poison his enemies.

But honestly, the thing that I'm really interested in is the FREAKIN AWESOME NEW CHAMP SELECT MUSIC. It sounds freakin awesome.

darkdill3/13/2015, 8:09:57 PM1 votes

% max health damage also makes him actually relevant in a team fight against high-health tanks, who Singed has problems with right now. Sure he could go Liandry, but that's hard for him to reach since he's a poor lane farmer early on and generally has to get other expensive items first like Rod of Ages.

BeatzBoyFTW3/14/2015, 2:15:37 AM1 votes

Someone is scared of the Rise of the Fart Master.

Eedat3/13/2015, 8:26:47 PM1 votes

considering Singed never builds Magic Pen besides maybe a late game Liandry's, The %HP damage isn't going to be a problem. He only gets to use it once in a fight anyway

DrCyanide3/13/2015, 8:49:13 PM1 votes

I think they are trying to give Singed a better reason to fling another tank in a team fight, rather than have him be a glorified support.