With sated devour gutted for ranged champs, what will be the point of kindred jg?

lolipopevelynn·Sep 25, 2015·3 votes·997 views

i am pretty Anti devour and i am happy for the nerfs, but the only ranged champ that used it in the jg was vayne jg and the occasional teemo jg niche pick.

why create kindred specifically for a jg role and butcher the only item they would build in jg? What would be the point of taking her into jg vs taking her bot? i feel like she is flawed before she is even released.

this is one of the reasons i HATE devour. it forces certain champs into this idiotic play style of jging and if it gets nerfed or buffed at all it either breaks the champion ( ) or makes the champion completely useless as kindred jg will be.

the item itself is so badly designed and hopefully you guys replace it (YET AGAIN) in the preseasosn.

12 Comments

TehNACHOSep 25, 20154 votes

That moment when Kayle apparently stops existing.

They did it because a ranged champion auto attacking has a completely different dynamic than a melee champion auto attacking.

The item is fine, relatively, but the people most commonly using it and the people most commonly fighting against it have no fucking clue what they're doing most of the time.

3tysonSep 25, 20152 votes

Free botrk every 8stacks will be totaly useless cause cant dubble dmg

lolipopevelynnSep 25, 20153 votes

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Free botrk every 8stacks will be totaly useless cause cant dubble dmg

ya I think they nerfed the item SPECIFICALLY because of her since her passive and E does stupid amounts of % health damage. which again is flawed design since the ONLY other ranged champion that was problematic with the item was vayne.

its mainly the damn melees that are ridiculous when they get sated...

3tysonSep 25, 20151 votes

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ya I think they nerfed the item SPECIFICALLY because of her since her passive and E does stupid amounts of % health damage. which again is flawed design since the ONLY other ranged champion that was problematic with the item was vayne.

its mainly the damn melees that are ridiculous when they get sated...

Ad tf is pretty bad ass with sated and botrk just one gold card and who ever your atacking will be half hp when hes done being stunned

Meep ManSep 25, 20151 votes

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ya I think they nerfed the item SPECIFICALLY because of her since her passive and E does stupid amounts of % health damage. which again is flawed design since the ONLY other ranged champion that was problematic with the item was vayne.

its mainly the damn melees that are ridiculous when they get sated...

Its to make sure Kindred isn't dealing stupid amounts of % damage with Bork, simple as that. Its also a needed nerf to Kayle jungle.

Jungle Lux GodSep 25, 20152 votes

As long as the meta stays with an ADC bot, Kindred really won't have much of a point in the jungle.

The thing about Devourer is that the other three items fill the three major kind of champions that would go in the jungle: Warrior fits AD's, Runeglaive fits AP's, and Cinderhulk fits tanks, but Devourer really only fits champions who can abuse its gimmick.

At best, Kindred will see play because they're an ADC that doesn't have to rely on a gimmick in order to be a viable jungler. Kindred could still play jungle and run Warrior instead, and it wouldn't be too bad because they're designed to be able to jungle, because they have so much of a power budget around jungling with the stacking system on their passive. This would give teams an option to not use an ADC bot (which really won't happen unless they run Mordekaiser carry or a kill lane bot) or have the option to run a double AD comp with an ADC bot and Kindred in the jungle.

That said, I agree that there isn't much point in playing Kindred jungle unless them being the only viable marksman jungler is something really important. The have the same kind of weaknesses as mages and tanks in the jungle, where they have a bad early game, but they also don't get an item that helps their bad early game, and only get items that make their early game less bad while also lacking late-game scaling.

PennsSep 25, 20152 votes

item 3707 doe

WarlockLawSep 25, 20151 votes

Kayle abuses sated devourer worse than Teemo or Vayne, she even got nerfed because of that.

That said I don't understand why they are making this change. That nerf is so severe they may as well put 'melee only' on that item. This isn't the nerf it needs, the biggest problem with the item is how easily it can snowball out of nothing on several champions.