Dynamic queue is fine for normals, but not for ranked

The Deckowner··125 votes·2,691 views

Kets face it, DQ is just a new teambuilder, it is good for normal games, but it can never be the replacement of solo queue. Eventually dynamic queue queue time will become longer and longer due to lesser and lesser support players. And the queue will die. Rito bring back solo queue plz.

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SlaktarTasken18 votes

To make matters worse, solo players are the glue that makes DQ stick together, but Riot continuously gives solo players the middle finger less incentive to play with reduced chances for rewards, needing to grind ladder a hell of alot more than premades to reach their proper league due to variance and just overall inferior gameplay.

PbJMpP4xzk2 votes

thats all true i wish more peoples would understand this

Foxstep17 votes

Dynamic Quere is not the new champion selection.

Fallen Leaves2 votes

Seriously it's been said many times, there is no dynamic queue for normals because dynamic queue is the ability to play ranked with 3, 4, or 5 man pre-made. (I am agreeing with you)

MazeMangler1 votes

HELL YES 10 TIMES THIS. GET THAT IN YOUR HEADS!!!! RIOT RELEASED NEW CHAMPSELECT AND DYNAMIC Q SIMULTANEOUSLY BUT ITS LIKE ME EATING A TOAST AND EGGS FOR BREAKFAST, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!

Ok guys i needed that. For those who dont know, dynamic q actually means letting people Q up in 3+ premades. People dont like it because soloplayers matter less in those games and ranked ladder loses all of its integrity because who knows who plays in large premade groups and who doesnt? Riot released both, new champselect (choose 2 roles and q up) and dynamic q (q up with premades) at the exact same time to confuse people and hell, i hate them seeing successfull with that strategy.

T RexHasTinyArms2 votes

What is this nonsense?!?! Get out of here with your logic and understanding of the system. This is the rito complaint board and we must up vote all complaints that could be related to not getting solo que or how it it bc of dynamic que. Especially the ones that don't make sense and are inaccurate! /s

The Queen Viper7 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

DYNAMIC QUEUE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW CHAMP SELECT

mogonk5 votes

But the point is to make people feel like they're "getting somewhere" or achieving something. That way they keep playing.

And that's the same reason DQ is here to stay: people who play with friends keep playing longer and spend more money.

Riot does not give a shit about whether DQ isn't a suitable game mode for "serious competition" or whatever. They just care about whether it makes them more money, and it does.

Shadòw2 votes

sad but true

Knoyle3 votes

It's not good for normals. I play nothing but normals and it sucks getting shoe horned into a role you didn't really want to play. It also doesn't help that you get to find a lovely premade of 4 who will treat you like dirt because you are the only one not in a group. Just about every problem you have with it in Ranked is on Normals as well. Thise Queue will never replace Team Builder which shouldn't have been removed in the first place.

The Deckowner3 votes

these issue exist in tb 2

Knoyle1 votes

And were they fixed? IF so, only to be replaced with new problems.

The Deckowner1 votes

Problem had not been solved, but rito tried to cover it by using fancy declarations.

Fovere3 votes

While the teamplay aspects of this game are a huge part of what I enjoy, I've never tried to be "competitive." When I'd discuss the toxicity and gameplay issues I experienced as a solo queuer, I was encouraged to move into ranked play to avoid them. Solo queue ranked was the only place I could get a fairly stable experience.

 Playing with friends is great, and premade ranked teams certainly have their place, but it teams to exaggerate/unbalance differences between the teams, typically resulting in a landslide win or loss, rather than the tight match ups that everyone loves.

Riot has showed extraoardinary disrespect towards solo queuers, removing even our ability to observe who is and is not premade. Obviously the premade teams know they are premade, so this only affects the solo queue players.  The new crafting system is geared towards giving premades advantages over solo players, and obviously the report system is going to be a hell of a lot more forgiving towards players who are going in with friends, so won't have nearly as high of a report/games played ratio
BALDG1VEN BOOMER2 votes

I'd agree it's better for normals just by the read of the title reminds me of a horrid experience I had a couple of days ago that has put me on perma tilt.

I queued up for a game all goes well and I get into a game and out mid laner starts doing some random stuff like picking random fights walking into enemy jungle without vision etc and by 6 mins in he was 0/3 stating how he played the game for "fun". Game goes on and our Mundo top decided he'll 1v1 solo kill an inhib turret because why not? He proceeds to do this three times all in which the enemies catch him so essentially giving free gold away then claims how turrets are too op. And to make this worst they were a duo (maybe there man) and they all supported each other with these decisions because they all play for fun.

Don't get me wrong but ranked is a competitive environment if you wanted to troll and 1v1 a turret you can go do a customs with your buddies or in normals I could care less but please don't do this kind of stuff in ranked it's meant for competitive play not for "lets queue up with my friends and troll a game for fun and not expect someone to be angry"

ANGUSdaGUY1 votes

dude that just sounds like dumb luck, people are going to troll solo, people are going to troll duo. Dynamic queue isnt to blame for trolling players. Now it's 1 or 2 more trolling players and thats occasionally. It's really not that bad at all. better than being last pick and KNOWING you're getting adc or support.

The Sword Saint2 votes

New champ select =/= dynamic queue.

Jofeyy1 votes

Dont know why you were downvoted, I agree with you. I like being able to choose my top 2 roles and I like the way champion select works. What I dont like is premade teams.

La Barbotte2 votes

dynamic queue, and the new champion select are two seperate things, dynamic queue as always been in normals it is purely queuing with any number of premades, champion select (picking roles, ban phase etc) is a completely different thing, they were released at the same time, thats all

The Deckowner1 votes

I knoe that, i am just talking these two things together.

La Barbotte2 votes

i see still dont think its gonna die tho, people are addicted, even if they like it less, they wont leave, community of whiny zombies

Erockandroll1 votes

Well technically, we never had a true solo Q to begin with, the old system allowed for duo's.

And we were asking for a ranked Teambuilder, basically since teambuilder's conception. It would be unreasonable to completely abandon this system so soon. (given how long the old Teambuilder last)

And even though I might get support 90% of the time I opt into it. I at the very least do so by choice, instead of being forced into it, all because I was last pick.

FACE THE WlND1 votes

I queue with a support :D

Odinakos1 votes

I agree with you.

I really love DQ as normal draft. It was a decent upgrade from teambuilder and now i rarely if ever play blind picks.

On the other hand i dont like it for ranked games. Funny thing, HotS decreased unlimited party members for ranked games down to two. Exactly the opposite of LoL.

DrCyanide1 votes

DQ is just a new teambuilder

You don't know what Dynamic Queue even is...

The Deckowner1 votes

DQ: create a party of 1~5 people with desired roles then find random solo player to glue the premade TB:literally the same

DrCyanide1 votes

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DQ: create a party of 1~5 people with desired roles then find random solo player to glue the premade TB:literally the same

Fixed it for you. The old champion select could have been used with Dynamic Queue, and essentially was with Normal Draft for years.

I hate my ADC1 votes

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DQ: create a party of 1~5 people with desired roles then find random solo player to glue the premade an equal amount of parties with a similar number of players in it to play against. In case of no match found fill with Solo players of higher MMR to compensate for the lack of premade.

Fixed the fix for you.

Iittala1 votes

As a support/solo player in dynamic que. My times are actually going up to.

Hate to say it but as a support gotta play carry style over utility simply because of some of the terrible decisions I see in ranked. (honestly see better decisions in normals)

maembe1 votes

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As a support/solo player in dynamic que. My times are actually going up to.

This seems impossible. I put support as my secondary and 95% of the time I'm in a game within 10 seconds and I usually play at like 6 in the morning.

I hate my ADC1 votes

As a support main and solo player in dynamic queue, my queue time are on average 5 to 10 seconds at any time of the day and the night and hasn't changed at all this season.

Hate to break it to you, but as a support in bronze, you won't see many people making good decisions, period. In platinum, I see most people making sound and thought out decisions, albeit not always the good ones, but at least they try to stay consistent. Playing carry support doesn't work in Platinum unless your team is steamrolling and utility is what make the difference.

Fovere1 votes

And while I can't yet speak for ranked games, pretty much 100% of my normal games involve premade teams, >80%+ with 3+ premades. Its just not fun.

Invictus Unbent1 votes

Bring back solo queue. Signed & upvoted.

Tufio1 votes

people are noticing dynamic to be "normal ranked" only now?

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