Can ADCs get an item that gives AD, AS, %arpen, lifesteal, crit, and movespeed?

fuffychan·May 9, 2017·1 votes·665 views

Fighters and melees have an item that gives everything they need

Why not ADCs?

26 Comments

TyrekGoldenspearMay 9, 20178 votes

Fighters and melees are meant to fight up close and personal, don't have an option to kite, and don't have a support in their back pocket to keep them safe.

ADCs on the other hand...

fuffychanMay 9, 20171 votes

You literally didnt even answer the question.

Melees all have access to ONE item that gives everything they need in ONE item. ADCs have to buy at least THREE items to get the proper stats they need to be effective.

TyrekGoldenspearMay 10, 201711 votes

I did. You just didn't pay attention OR didn't care to.

[The reason ADCs don't get an item to give them everything they need but melees and fighters do is because] Fighters and melees are meant to fight up close and personal, don't have an option to kite, and don't have a support in their back pocket to keep them safe.

ADCs on the other hand... [Are meant to scale into late game, to do this they have powerspikes that need several items. They do NOT need to be strong early like melee champs, otherwise they will have every advantage in laning against said melees, especially top, as they already have a range advantage and can kite, denying melees a chance to hit them.]

This clear enough?

AhristocatsMay 10, 20175 votes

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I did. You just didn't pay attention OR didn't care to.

or his IQ wasn't high enough to get it

TyrekGoldenspearMay 10, 20173 votes

I mean, he IS an adc main so...

Okay, that was uncalled for, I apologize. I am slowly turning toxic help!!!

EndlessSorcererMay 10, 20175 votes

At least your chose a deserving target.

If you have to insult anybody, it may as well be a known troll.

RalanrMay 10, 20172 votes

I insult them with indifference!

Critmaster GarenMay 10, 20173 votes

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You literally didnt even answer the question.

heres your answer:

no.

fuffychanMay 10, 20171 votes

Thanks for the useful comment

as expected from you

RalanrMay 10, 20172 votes

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JoxcabMay 10, 20174 votes

No one expects anything from you by this point and you still manage to disappoint them. That's like, trophy-worthy.

DrCyanideMay 10, 20176 votes

item 3153 - Gives AD, AS, Lifesteal, steals Movement Speed, Ignores Armor (thanks Magic Damage Active), and deals % HP Physical Damage.

Your mistake was thinking an ADC would want Crit when this item exists.

TheHappyReaperzMay 9, 20174 votes

Black Cleaver really isn't good on a fighter, unless you have the AS or attack resets to make it worth using. By itself, its is far from the best item you can buy.

fuffychanMay 10, 20172 votes

Dont buy item 3071 on Riven or Darius guys, its the worst item ever, you heard it here first from thehappyreaperz with a Z!

SlythionMay 10, 20172 votes

fck that obvious cherrypicking, let's not pretend like cleaver is a core god-mode item on Olaf Camille Volibear Irelia

you know just as well as I that he was talking about how it doesn't work on everyone, and even specifically listed off the class of fighters. Why you think Darius is a fighter is beyond me, but either your stupid or you took his comment way out of context.

Critmaster GarenMay 10, 20171 votes

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fck that obvious cherrypicking, let's not pretend like cleaver is a core god-mode item on

its not. all 4 of them utilize item 3078 better than cleaver.

you know very well, that triforce is core on irelia. also on camille who can convert sheen procs into true damage.

as far as the other two go, cleaver is a situational buy. even if it was core on them, then there would be no issue. the item is supposed to be acore item for juggernauts.

SlythionMay 10, 20171 votes

exactly, when did I even mention Trinity force? OP commentator mentioned that Cleaver isn't the best choice for everyone and the other guy cherry picked 2 champions who utilize cleaver as their core and represented it as every single juggernaut/fighter/diver etc.

My point isn't that they utilize TF but that Cleaver is not the god-item of all fighters (same as what the original comment said)...

Critmaster GarenMay 10, 20171 votes

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exactly, when did I even mention Trinity force? OP commentator mentioned that Cleaver isn't the best choice for everyone and the other guy cherry picked 2 champions who utilize cleaver as their core and represented it as every single juggernaut/fighter/diver etc.

My point isn't that they utilize TF but that Cleaver is not the god-item of all fighters (same as what the original comment said)...

oh, the way it was worded, i mistook it for sarcasm. nvm then, srry.

SlythionMay 10, 20171 votes

ay np, it just made me upset when that dude seemingly intentionally ignored part of Reaperz' comment only to take it out of context again to argue with it.

And then their argument was composed of cherrypicking 2 champions to represent nearly half of the champion roster...it was such a stupid and uncalled-for argument that I was just amazed someone would even think it was logical to try to do something like that.

TheHappyReaperzMay 10, 20172 votes

Riven has auto attack resets, allowing her to use BC efficiently, and Darius is a Juggernaut.