I take it back. New Pyke isn't THAT bad.......

Illabethe··11 votes·7,858 views

Yup. I've tried it a couple times recently.... and gotta say...

At least in low elo......

OMFG I've never seen a Pyke carry this hard....

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2907840461/243999882?tab=overview

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2906419874/243999882?tab=overview

The first one's probably one of my 7 most broken games I've played with him.

I was more or less soloing for the first 26 minutes of the game. I mean that. Literally. These guys don't know what an objective is. I pretty much had 3/4 of the team's kills/contributions up until then, and they got to a Base turret. What did my team do? They died diving the turret 3 times in a row. Twice it was less than 20% HP. Not one of them even attacked it.

For them to actually get that turret finally at 26:00, I had to pretty much solo Ace the other team by myself (Quadra, but the 5th wasn't there defending..... shame.... Zac showed up 40 sec later, so I didn't get the Penta, although I did get the kill off him too)

But yeah..... this team.... totally didn't know how to play vs Pyke. Or maybe it was just my Pyke (I play him differently than 98% of players). I don't know. If I was the Ahri, I would have stomped Pyke. If I was the Zyra, I would have stomped me. All I know is..... Lethality's not bad. At a lower elo........

(I haven't tried him higher yet. Scared to)

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iiGazeii2 votes

The Pyke changes were only really a hard nerf for Tank Pyke. His early game is a bit weaker, but assassin Pyke is still really strong.

Illabethe2 votes

I still think he falls off hard at high elo. It takes a LOT of mistakes on the other team and a horrible composition to do what I did.

High elo is going to find Pyke's mistakes and make his game miserable.

Krynnˉ1 votes

I'm a Pyke one-trick, imo I think all you need to do is build Youmuu's then standard Frozen Heart/Ga/Maw/X. Still weaker than usual, but full lethality Pyke in higher elos just isn't going work against good players. Pyke wasn't really designed well for being a full damage assassin, he is like a more mobile thresh, thresh has high AD scalings but nobody builds him AD, it's just a nice bit of damage so you aren't a noodle.

Illabethe1 votes

I know lol. And I think I have more Pyke mastery btw.

I was up to 543 AD. Without Baron :)

And I was still decently tanky vs their team..... originally had Ninja Tabis. just sold for the Triforce.

At high Elo I'll probably item 1412 item 3147 item 3142 item 3143 item 3194 or something to that effect. Depends on the team, tbh.

Krynnˉ1 votes

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I know lol. And I think I have more Pyke mastery btw.

I was up to 543 AD. Without Baron :)

And I was still decently tanky vs their team..... originally had Ninja Tabis. just sold for the Triforce.

At high Elo I'll probably item 1412 item 3147 item 3142 item 3143 item 3194 or something to that effect. Depends on the team, tbh.

This is an account I use primarily for NA boards (EU player). You might have more mastery than me but over a few accounts I have roughly around 300-400k, not the highest but enough mastery for only playing Pyke since release, but I don't see how that has any value at all in this conversation lol, champion mastery doesn't mean champion skill.

You do whatever works for you, but for an assassin Pyke's ratios are garbage, most assassins like Zed and Talon have 110%+ bonus AD ratios, and Khazix has a 260% Bonus AD Ratio... Pyke has 70% on his Q... What Pyke does have is high base damages because he was designed to play on a low income role, so Frozen Heart and GA became core because they are cheap defensive items that allow him to shine.

But then again I was a support main before Pyke came out so I just started playing him like every other catcher in the role (Thresh, Blitz, Nautilus at one point, excluding Bard as he is more of a unique play style and less generic), and just started playing him more since he is far more forgiving than Blitz or Thresh (higher mobility, doesn't get poked as hard by mage supports, flank potential, arguably better roaming, cooldown on hook is absurdly low, etc). Of course you play support aswell, but seeing how one of your top supports is Zyra, maybe the full damage high risk play style is more comfortable for you then for a Alistar, Blitz, Leona, Thresh player like me.

Automated Riven1 votes

I'm pretty sure that pike is just gutted in high elo.

JoeMG1 votes

I played a support Pyke game yesterday with a full AD build. Early game was a breeze but the enemy team did a good job stalling us out and Pyke fell off really hard late game. Had some armor from GA and Iceborn but still got blown up trying to engage. Im not claiming to be great with Pyke, but to me he feels more like an assassin should now.

Modl Ryden l1 votes

Yeah this change to him just makes making mistakes less forgiving.

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