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Why You, as a Jungler, Should ALWAYS Camp Lanes that are Feeding

SteelMankind··1 votes·644 views

We've all experienced it before. Bot is feeding solo kill after solo kill, and the last time you tried to gank it gave their Lucian a triple kill. Most junglers at that point would give up and try to control objectives/enemy jungler/get mid and top fed. I was like that, until recently.

I realized that when you ignore a lane that's feeding uncontrollably, they're likely to blame the jungler for not helping them. I have a very thin skin, and so any time I hear complains such as "Terrible jungler never ganks" or whatever, I get tilted off the face of the earth.

I've found that continuing to gank the same feeding lane, even if the enemy laner is strong enough to double/triple kill every time, is the optimal way to go in the long run. Yes, it pratically guarantees that you lose that game. But it keeps you fresh and untilted for the next one, since your teammates won't be cursing your name and blaming you for everything that goes wrong.

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Linna Excel7 votes

Downvoting because camping a losing lane is one of the worst things in the game you can do as a jungler.

SteelMankind1 votes

The games I'm referring to are the sort of stomps that occur in silver/gold elo where the feeding lane just goes to absolute shit. I honestly believe that it's much better, in those situations, to cut your losses and do whatever you can to ensure that you are ready to play well next game. Continuing to try to actually win in theses games is what slowly causes players to become depressed and toxic.

Linna Excel1 votes

The games I'm referring to are the sort of stomps that occur in silver/gold elo where the feeding lane just goes to absolute shit.

If they become toxic to you in chat, that's when you mute them and try to put them out of your mind. I get where you are coming from, but as a jungler your time is precious and there's no sense wasting it on someone who is losing when you can be helping someone who's winning and trying to carry your team.

It's risky for you the jungler to help a feeding lane because you won't be able to 2v2 if a counter gank occurs and depending on the champ getting fed and how bad your laner is, you might not be able to 2v1 even. So what's the other jungler going to do when he sees you camping a lane that's losing for you? He's going to counter gank and try to feed the guy who is carrying his team even more. Now your team has given up 2 more kills and you've lost time as the jungler.

Angry Monster4 votes

except that every pro jungler would tell you that you are insane for that line of thought. The best way to make a situation worse is try to 2v1 with someone that is completely being out classed.

o look a non jungle main preaching about how to jungle

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/55986644#matches

whats new?

SteelMankind1 votes

Except almost all of the pro players I can think of are either toxic, depressed, or emotionless. This isn't advice for climbing, this is advice for enjoying the game.

WoonStruck2 votes

So if they aren't angry or sad, they're emotionless?

Do you really think its that hard to not take offense to something that's obviously not true?

SteelMankind1 votes

I guess Voyboy isn't typically angry, sad or emotionless. I'm not aware of any other pro players who aren't, though.

Maybe you're the kind of person who can just ignore the voice of three or four other people telling you to uninstall, kill yourself, etc., but I can't. Not everyone has an iron wall for self esteem.

WoonStruck1 votes

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I guess Voyboy isn't typically angry, sad or emotionless. I'm not aware of any other pro players who aren't, though.

Maybe you're the kind of person who can just ignore the voice of three or four other people telling you to uninstall, kill yourself, etc., but I can't. Not everyone has an iron wall for self esteem.

Usually, if a lane starts to fall behind, I'll run there to try to turn things around, but if the laner is inattentive to an incoming gank, going WAY too early/late, dying before I can head in for a gank without the enemy laner over-extending, etc etc, I will simply spend my time on more consistent advantages, whether it be objectives, farming, or another lane. If the map isn't busy and I'm in the area, I will try to put pressure so they can at least farm, but I will not dedicate my time to them, and I will ask them to play safe and try to get what they can for teamfights.

If there is not room to do that, it is not your fault as a jungler, and you can know you at least did your part. Besides, if a laner is behind and has teleport, and he uses it selfishly for farm, you know he's not making good decisions. If you're behind in lane, always try ganking if you can find a good opportunity to do so.

Besides, people will call you a bad jungler even if you do everything right if you aren't stomping the entire game as a result. If they're the type to do so, they will just try to use your presense for examples of being bad, as opposed to trying to use a lack of examples if you didn't.

SteelMankind1 votes

"If there is not room to do that, it is not your fault as a jungler, and you can know you at least did your part."

Bro, if I'm the only one who's thinking that and three other players are telling me its my fault, I'm pretty sure that it's my fault.

WoonStruck1 votes

Unless you fed all of their lanes, it cannot be your fault. Them flaming you because you didn't gank or something is like blaming Bill Gates for you being poor because he won't give you money. Its like blaming cops for not shooting someone that murdered somebody, despite no cops feasibly being around at the time.

If they got ganked repeatedly and died, they could A) ward better B) play safer C) watch for the jungler on the map so they know when they can be aggressive.

There are other options as well.

Rarely will it actually be your fault. Most people that blame the jungler do so to deflect blame from themselves, and those are the kinds of players that do not improve. Even if its 3 of them. Especially if they're premade.

As a jungler, your only true responsibility is objective control, which laners need to help with as well.

jaymc11302 votes

Really, if you can, prevent a lane from feeding in the first place. You are the swing man. It's your job to pay attention to and baby sit the rest of the map, to show up at the right place at the right time and make an impact to change the course of the game.

A good jungler will know where to be when, can watch the lanes as he farms his first two and three camps to decide how his mates are faring while also maintaining good kite and minimal damage taken from camps. Watch your laners, figure out who is showing skill, who needs obvious help, who can you work with for an easy gank secured, what is the opposing jungler up to given his start (optimally seen with deep wards, experienced players simply have an internal clock for what the enemy opposite is up to) and where is he, who is he likely to gank, and then make a decision to help whomever is most in need of help as soon as possible as often as possible.

A good jungler anticipates his enemy and knows his allies capabilities intimately in respect. He chooses to be at the right place at the right time to keep his whole team ahead. Prevention is the best medicine. Don't try to fix a band aid to a broken bone or a simple scratch, prevent that accident from occurring.

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

You are wrong. Never focus on a losing lane.

SteelMankind1 votes

Conventionally, this is what a jungler would do. I'm advocating a new mindset where you focus on not getting teammates mad at you rather than actually winning individual games. I believe that doing so will in the long run cause you to win more games because you would be more positive overall.

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