@Riot, I'm at the point where I don't even bother upgrading my jungle items past challenging smite.

ABlueQuaker·May 22, 2015·2 votes·546 views

I used to upgrade to warrior, then switch it out late game for cleaver. Cleaver now has more CDR so I'm missing out on 10% CDR if I get Warrior. I now just get Challenging smite then start building my cleaver and usually get it not long after I would if I were playing in a lane.

I used to get Magus, but I constantly go oom. Now I just get Challenging Smite then start building my Morello's.

I used to get cinderhulk. I still do because +25% Bonus HP is f*cking absurd considering its cost.

I don't think I ever got Devourer enchantment. I'd probably be more likely to just get BotRK. Getting Devourer basically translates to 'I'm just gonna AFK farm for 25 minutes and hope my lanes don't fall behind'.

Well played Riot.

10 Comments

LilxPaprikaMay 22, 20152 votes

They should make jungle items disposable designed to get you past the 30 min mark.around the time where the game's focus changes from clearing the jungle to applying pressure securing objectives/team fighting. The items would be strong early but fall of late without any consequence since they could be refunded for full value just not get any additional gold from camps if you switch it for a regular item.

I know that means doing away with smite active/enchantment for late but I think we were fine before, for longest time smite never had enchantments. this way we get both. Also thre are ample items that offer actives/passives with the same benefit that a jungle smite offers.

Posted this not so long ago, don't pay attention to title http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/s5hLeiRJ-cinderhulkskirmisher-meta-possible-fix http://i.imgur.com/7SO6ghC.jpg

ABlueQuakerMay 22, 20152 votes

To me, Jungle items are the equivalent of Double Doran's Blade/Ring on Laners.

Sightless66May 22, 20152 votes

I don't think that's really the best idea. After you have the skirmisher's sabre, upgrading to Warrior or Magus is very, very gold efficient. You get a ton of stats for the gold you spend. Magus will give you the same AP and CDR as Morello's for 1,400 gold, which is a lot cheaper than the 2,300 gold that Morello's costs. Spending an extra 900 for the mana regen isn't cost-efficient.

ABlueQuakerMay 22, 20151 votes

Just completely ignore Morello's passive...

Sightless66May 22, 20151 votes

It usualy doesn't have much value. Unless I have a specific reason to need the passive (which I usually don't), I don't factor it into my decision to purchase the item. It certainly can't make up for all the gold efficiency. If you want, you can read my earlier statement as "spending an extra 900 for the mana regen and the passive isn't cost-efficient". Still applies.

ZeeDrakonMay 22, 20151 votes

Well that means you havent understood what a powerspike is. Magus and warrior both give you a much higher powerspike for less gold. Esp warrior since %ar pen is useless so early esp as jungler

Drunk RummateMay 22, 20151 votes

So you're saying you won't spend 1400 gold for 40 AD, 10 armor pen, and 10% cdr?

You're crazy lol.

Original QuitterMay 22, 20151 votes

Umm according to your match history you finish your jungle item seconds in 100% of your jungle ranked games over the last few days......so yeah whatever OP

ABlueQuakerMay 22, 20151 votes

Take another look. Only Cinderhulk was completed. Now re-read what I said about Cinderhulk.

Original QuitterMay 22, 20151 votes

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Take another look. Only Cinderhulk was completed. Now re-read what I said about Cinderhulk.

You do not have a single game in your recent matches where you have SMITE and not Cinderhulk to even compare with. One of the games all you have was triforce and hulk, the only game where you do not have a cinderhulk is a Lee Sin game where you have a completed warrior and Cleaver. W/e not gunna sit here and try to be a dick and call you out all day, but anyone looking at this objectively will see the same thing.

So still smells of BS to me.