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Not all tanks have been buffed

The Cane Master··3 votes·569 views
Champion.gg - Dr. Mundo Top Stats, Builds, Runes, Masteries and Counters

With the implementation of the new mastery Courage of the Colossus, POINT-AND-CLICK tanks with hard cc have been buffed. That means Nautilus, Poppy, Maokai are really great now. Well not all tanks have hard CC. One of them might be Nasus, and I get that he recently got R buffed, but he's still way off being meta strong. Some tanks don't even have a guaranteed slow, and that might be Dr. Mundo. The champion is seriously outdated, he hasn't been anywhere close to meta strong for like years, with the interference at the beginning of season 5 (Renekton, Shywana meta). After that he's been butchered.

https://www.champion.gg/champion/DrMundo

So I'm sitting for years over here thinking if Riot will ever announce a rework for these two old, outdated, one-dimensional nutcracks? Just don't tell me it's Nautilus, Poppy and Maokai are harder to play and I can go commit a suicide.

32 Comments

Big Lincoln4 votes

iirc Mundo was very strong at some point during season 6 when Grasp was very good

Nasus is fine, Mundo has a horrible kit and shouldn't be given anything until they make a second Juggernaut patch or VGU him

Ralanr1 votes

I think VGU. He needs to have a Cleaver as big as the one in his splash art.

The Cane Master1 votes

Nasus is fine

When he would get picked instead of Maokai, Nautilus or Poppy I'd agree. Until then, you are being wrong.

Ralanr2 votes

What he offers is completely different from what they offer.

Being durable is really the only thing they have in common gameplay wise.

Mecha MaIphite2 votes

Except his play rate is higher than all three of those champions in top lane. He's also sitting at a decent 51% win rate.

doodlebob6662 votes

https://champion.gg/champion/Nasus/Top he is picked more than all of those champs in plat and up. and has a pretty good win rate, with a relatively inexperienced player base, so statistically he is right

The Cane Master1 votes

statistically being the key word here. These are only solo queue stats, and while me being in diamond, you don't ever see Nasus being picked instead of any CoC tank.

doodlebob6663 votes

I kinda think that's a bit more of a design problem with nasus tho, he can't really be viable in diamond without being completely busted down here in silver, this goes for all the other champs too. I don't think they need reworks just a shift of power away from certain parts of their kits(except mundo that guy is flat out impossible to balance)

The Cane Master2 votes

Exactly, that's why both of these guys need reworks. The way they are right now it's almost impossible to balance them as you'd nicely pointed out.

Ralanr2 votes

Then why didn't you just say that instead of mocking other champions?

Big Lincoln5 votes

He's a fighter, not a tank

He's more comparable to other fighters like Darius and Garen. And he has a very good pickrate right now.

The Cane Master1 votes

in low elo (plat and lower). In Diamond where I'm at, there is no way you'd see Nasus and/or DrMundo being picked over any CoC tank Maokai Poppy Nautilus .

Big Lincoln5 votes

You've already been linked to champion.gg but that considers Plat and up (that includes Diamond, Mr. High Elo) and Nasus has a higher pick rate overall

Maybe not in your games, but he's gotten pretty popular with the new E max build.

The Cane Master1 votes

lol I have been playing Nasus for the whole season 6 (550k Mastery points) and I got diamond with it prior the buff to his R. The E max is flat out retarded, it relies on your teammates to do damage and solo queue simply doesn't work that way.

The Cane Master1 votes

Have you ever seen Nasus or DrMundo beating Darius ? I haven't so far, I've played this game for 4 years and counting. For crying out loud Darius even has AOE pull, while neither of Nasus and DrMundo have any sort of hard cc despite being tanks.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Nasus and Mundo are fighters, not tanks.

Hell, they are the two examples Riot provided for Juggernauts (which are a subset of fighters) when classifying roles.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

thats not true at all. mundo was really strong when he got buffed at around the end of season 5 he wasn't strong because of grasp

Ralanr4 votes

That's cause Mundo isn't a tank.

The Cane Master1 votes

Lmao his build consists purely of tank items, the same ones that Poppy, Nautilus and Maokai build - Sunfire Cape, Spirit Visage, Randuin's Omen, Thornmail and such. He's not even efficient when buying Frozen Heart/Iceborn as he doesn't use mana.

Ralanr3 votes

"Because items determine your class"

No they don't. Just because he builds tanky doesn't make him a tank. He's a threat based on his damage and survivability, dude is a juggernaut like Nasus.

The Cane Master1 votes

I'm just saying that despite him ''not being a true tank'', Courage of the Colossus tanks like Nautilus , Poppy and Maokai are being way stronger now, and not even harder to play.

Ralanr2 votes

Not disagreeing with that. Though CoTC is getting nerfed now.

Plus Nasus's skill level is basically last hitting and then how well you understand how the game works.

The Cane Master1 votes

Just don't tell me that Nautilus, Poppy and Maokai are harder to play and I can go commit a suicide.

Ralanr2 votes

Are you wanting me to tell you to kys? Cause I won't tell you to kys.

Plus I doubt you take my opinion on champion difficulty seriously.

The Cane Master1 votes

Why do you even bother to comment if you expect others to not take you seriously?

Ralanr1 votes

Boredom mostly.

Plus you and I have met enough trolls to know that a serious discussion is not the main driving point sometimes.

Big Lincoln4 votes

he's considered a juggernaut because he's mostly for doing damage and sitting in the middle of fights

But he doesn't buy any damage because his Q and E don't actually scale with items (well, E does now) and his sustain scales directly with HP. He has all the steroids he needs to build full tank and remain relevant

k wìx2 votes

**Can't wait for them to update the outdated relic. **

  • He is oddly anti-tank with cleaver damage OP
  • So many items don't work on him and should...
  • His damage is great mid-game, and terrifying in good hands if he gets fed...
  • His survivability is countered way to easily.
  • His late game potential is very poor. Without CC, he contributes very little.

Ideas for a fix...

  • Have Cleavers put a mini-exhaust on the target it hits, like 10 or 15% reduced damage from that target. Like a built-in deaths dance effect.
  • His ultimate should not be affected by anti-life regeneration items, like _Grievous Wounds _and such.
  • All mana items should give Mundo a % of health instead. like if an item gives 200 mana, MUNDO should get 100 health instead.
  • His AOE Fire Aura should RAMP UP in damage the longer enemies stay inside of it.
The Cane Master1 votes

Great work man, as a 500k+ mastery Mundo player myself, I have thought of some suggestions, but you outreached my idea of Dr. Mundo's rework idea. :)

k wìx2 votes

Thanks boss - keep going where you please!

Handy Sandy 1 votes

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The Cane Master1 votes

I'm just saying that despite him ''not being a true tank'', Courage of the Colossus tanks like Nautilus , Poppy and Maokai are being way stronger now, and not even harder to play.

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