Evelynn is more useless post rework than pre rework a summary

Darth Sidiouss··11 votes·1,680 views

Before with the just the sheer movement speed from W i could kite my targets while dealing decent DPS with spam-able Q let alone CATCH someone.. power budget focused into a situational ultimate and charm i am beginning to hate this rework now shes REALLY useless.

  • ENTIRE kit relies on landing W despite her radius detection being the size of Africa and does not scale.
  • Q having an actual cool down used to be fairly DPS over time a dozen spikes could earn you a kill. New hate spike more mechincally involved yet doesn't do any justice for her "burst".
  • No stealth till lvl 6
  • Why does she even have a HP regen passive if she cant even reliably gank? it would make sense if she could go into stealth pre 6 with the HP regen.

The charm is sassy and nice when it lands.. lets talk about ACTUALLY landing it in gold elo

  • Desired target will move back, especially near a tower.
  • Desired target will often be surrounded by teammates making the charm nearly impossible and impractical to land.

Don't bother mentioning to charm someone else to reach your ACTUAL target as she deals no reliable damage without landing the charm to begin with..

for instance if you did you would be engaging with no CC only having R and summoner 4 as escape 7/10 times you wouldn't kill the target with all the shields plus other bs CC to trap you before you attempt a cheap combo on the desired target she FAILS as an assassin.

  • She fails because her reliable escape is also her ultimate which is also her finisher you limited what she could actually do in situations for example Kayn could simply Q over a damn wall be safe with his ult still up, Evelynn by the time you can proc a charm your dead.

  • The charm basically SCREAMS your coming to get someone , absolutely no element of surprise the opponent has more time to think and react plus you dont have nearly the old movement speed of old eve to catch someone in the first place, it takes only a few brain cells to come with a way to counter-play her charm, then no charm = no Evelynn basically USELESS champion atm.

Also build diversity she cant be played with off meta builds anymore the rework team made damn sure of that.

11 Comments

KnifeCat6 votes

Just imagine if it was only a gameplay update, and not a visual one too. It'd be one of the worst reworks ever. She'd feel completely gutted.

she's just useless right now. It's like what they did with Rengar/LB, except they took "counterplay" to the next level with eve. Even Rengar/LB weren't made this useless. The charm is several times worse than Rengar ult. At least he can jump to his target!

Rito just doesn't know how an assassin should work. They have no clue how to rework any assassin.

Darth Sidiouss4 votes

i feel as though they should of had actual veteran eve players to give further insight on direction involving the gameplay of kit maybe they had a few who knows but i feel like any veteran would not agree with the changes she got

Ok sure but why5 votes

I miss old Eve sooooo much right now. Back when building AD, On-Hit and Crit were still viable! Those were the days.

Darth Sidiouss5 votes

i used to build On-hit tank with ferver and CRUSH teams i was able to even fight champions like Riven 1on1 and whoop there ass it was so fun, this rework eve i hate it. I honestly do shes too slow and has no map pressure unlike before

Dr Dog4 votes

Don't forget her pathetic excuse for a gap closer

Darth Sidiouss4 votes

its like watching a lion chase a cheetah tbh

Levu4 votes

I know people like to complain about thier champs when they get touched, but this is on a whole different spectrum

This isn't like the poppy or Sion rework, not even the warwick one

Eve was viable and people actually loved her kit and mechanics

This is straight up travesty and should be addressed in full disclosure

This is honestly BS and they made a viable champion UNVIABLE.

All the noobs saying shes good or doing well have no clue whats going on here

Darth Sidiouss4 votes

months prior to the rework i made several threads here and there to REMIND riot that she still had appearances even in LCS and that players who main her were very dedicated to her i am only one of many in this case. That's why i was upset like right now i cant even take her in ranked anymore simply cause her kit is too much an double edged sword :(

Thunderneedle3 votes

You are straight up trolling picking Eve in ranked.

Won't be long before we hear stories about false positive Eve player bans/suspensions.

Gelato da Koala3 votes

I used to love the champ- went for all sorts of builds ranging from nuke damage to utility tank. The champion was great- Riot were just too busy not reworking yas and kasssa's broken kits, so they needed to divert our attention somehow. They reverted the Kog rework- if they don't do that here they will never see a dime from me. There is already a decent group of individuals that have decided to stop wasting money on the game- for different but justifiable reasons.

facemelter7103 votes

I have 250 k points on eve. I have made atleast 20 comments on 20 diffenent posts on how this rework falls short and several ways to fix it to make her viable in competitive play and just play in general and not 1. NOT EVEN reply from a rioter to talk about this rework.

I wish they would have asked the top 100 eve players from each reagon on how to make this kit better before it went live.

But they just put it on pbe then boom its live with no changes. When the pbe is supposed to be testing ground. Why exactly do you have a teating grounds if you arent gonna make changes....

So once again I will make suggestions to improve her gameplay without completely changing her whole kit from current.

I AM NOT ASKING FOR All OF THESE SUGGESTIONS TO BE MADE ALL TOGEATHER BECAUSE THEN SHE WOULD BE BROKEN.

But 1.2.or maybe even 3 of them would be good.

Lets start with the passive. P. Currently stealth available at lvl 6 and the healing portion is useless without items.

  1. Up the healing base numbersand make it available up to 75% of max instead of 50% of max.

  2. Make the stealth abailable at lvl 3.

  3. Current garbage 900 detection range. But have it scale down by a % per champion lvl. Down to 450 detection range. At lvl 16.

On to the Q. Q. 1.Needs base damage increases. "Just got some today" good start riot! Ill give you that.

  1. Could use 20 range on initial skillshot.

Now we are moving on to W. W.

  1. Wait time scale down .15 sec per lvl.

  2. Max durration up to 6 sec at max lvl. .2 set extra per ability lvl. 1 and 2 should be implemented togeather but ill take what I can get.

  3. If you poc the charm if releases a short range aoe . think tiamat active. That will charm near by targets for half the inital target durration. ^ that one might be OP.

Still with me? Lets hope so if you are 1 tilt proof honor from me to you!

Alrighty then on to the E. E.

  1. This ability needs some range. 75 to 125 additional RANGE! With the ability to go over WALLS onto enemy champions.

EX. Rant incoming. ALL of your other assassins can go ever walls with non ulti abilities saved diana. But hers atleast lets her go in instead of forcing her to go out am I right.

Ok back to business.

  1. Needs to alwayse be a dash and only the damage should be empowered from coming out of stealth and or maybe even brush.

Last skill boys and girls almost done.

Onto the R. R. This one is tricky and I am kind of lost for words on changes without msking it a xaya ulti clone. Although. Id take that. Lol

  1. If eve kills a champion eve gets 3% 6% 9% of the champions health pool heal. Based on ability lvl.

  2. she floats in the air umtargetable for .65 .75 .85 based on ability lvl. She will then land in place of the cast Has 1.75 sec to blink backwords. To the predetermined location. Like xaya and zed had a baby. An enemy tilting rage enducing baby.

  3. Eve no longer blinks backwords at all. But instead can use the first cast of the ulti to blink in any direction then cast again to slash. If cast on an enemy from within slash range. The ulti will slash first then give her the choice to recast in any location and blink to thst location.

  4. Give me eves old ulti back. But and this is a big thick instagram BUTTTT!. Let me actually get a kill with the damn thing. % current hp was great. But why was there not even like a 50 minimum base damage on that thing. So triggering.

Ok i could probably think of a few more. But ill end it after only a few more words.

I would really really really also like to see eve get ad scaling once again. Regardless of any changes that may be made to her kit. Build diversety was one of her biggest upsides over all that time she was left in the shadows of riots balance team.

Now ill leave you with this. Evelynn is by far 100% my favorite champion in league of legends and league is by far one of the best games I have ever played and I really appreciate all the hard work riot does to make this a great game for all of us to enjoy. I do not make these suggestions to be mean to the dev team or nor do I want to make riot look bad. I just want my favorite champion to still be my favorite champion. Thank you for reading and good luck and have fun in all your games to come.

And remember. I am not asking for all of these changes to be made so please dont bitch me out saying i want riot to make my main broken so i can elo boost my unranked self...

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