It is not supports that are op.

Dasdi96·Aug 23, 2017·6 votes·261 views

It's the whole adc class that is beyond broken. Support items are only broken when buffing adc and not so effective when buffing mages/assassins/fighters. ADC already outscales almost everyone at which is 7100 gold. Compare this to a 2 item tank build: which is 6800, but gives way less value than the adc build. Meaning adc damage already outscales tanks at 2 items, not at 5 items like it's supposed to. You might say: "just 1 shot him with a burst mage". This is effective until the adc gets a or . If you can't 100-0 an adc instantly, they start healing back any damage they take while shredding your entire team. Assassins are useless at doing this because their combo takes too long, they are melee which means they can easily be peeled, and they have no cc which means the adc can draintank through their damage.

5 Comments

MizayaAug 23, 20172 votes

Nah, how about we make support NOT completely about buffing the ADC. We don't need Janna with Censer giving 4k+ gold of stats (probably not as much now after the nerf, but I still don't like the idea of the item) to the ADC everytime she presses E. Don't need item 3109 to be meta for junglers, and it only is because junglers make no money atm so are forced into less gold reliant picks and builds.

Literally the only problem with ADC itemization is zeal items. item 3087 in particular needs nerfs because you get like 300+ free AoE magic damage on a crit while not sacrificing many stats. That aside, why do you think relic shield on ADCs is becoming a strat? Why do you see so many Jannas running gp10 runes? It's because censer is just dominating all other support items.

HenzoAFAug 23, 20171 votes

ADCs are weaker early and strogner late, because their main atribute (Damage) scales of Attack Damage, Attack Speed, Critical Chance, Critical Damage and Lethality it's much easier to scale in late game than a tank that can only buy Health and Armor against them. Also ADCs are counters of Tanks, although they are suposed to be countered by Assassins, the problem in this meta is that Burst isn't viable since items like item 3102 item 3026 item 3156 item 3139 are super strong right now, Riot should fix it in this pre season.

Modnar EromAug 23, 20171 votes

ADCs are actually quite weak.... what makes them strong is the broken items (ardent, and shiv + rapidfire, locket, redemption, knights vow), and mastery (fervor a bit op lategame).

Imagine playing the game as ADC without those items in the game, and without the + heal and shield power in the game. Most would be beyond useless because they would just get blown up and itemized against (no mixed damage from shiv crits). Basically, weak ADCs (without items buffs) enforce the meta by dictating support selection and item selection on tanks.

The general weakness of ADCs is how ziggs bot lane came to be, and is also why Cait is still considered a good pick despite the damage nerfs (she is one of the few ADCs with self peel and CC while also being inherently safer due to range).

If the healing/shielding support items and knights vow were not in the game, we would probably be seeing stuff like ziggs vs yasuo botlane.