pbe 8.15: The annual meme Lee 'LCS' Sin buffs are coming

iTaLenTZ·Jul 30, 2018·127 votes·21,476 views

With worlds right around the corner

Lee Sin

Sonic Wave / Resonating Strike (Q)
     (Q1) + (Q2) AD ratio increased from 90% bAD to 100% bAD
     (Q1) + (Q2) damage lowered from 55/85/115/145/175 to 50/75/100/125/150
    [NEW] Resonating Strike (Q2) now deals up to 100% increased damage based on target's missing health.
         Resonating Strike damage changed from from [55/85/115/145/175 (+90% bAD)] to [50/75/100/125/150 (+100% bAD) to 100/150/200/250/300 (+200% bAD) based on targets missing health]
    [Removed]  Resonating Strike (Q2) No longer deals 8% of target's missing health as damage.

"We don't balance for LC$"

signed Ghostcrawler and Meddler

93 Comments

MordepoolJul 30, 201875 votes

So predictable, so sad.

PB4UAMEJul 31, 201824 votes

And like he really need to be pushed more towards deleting squishies without counterplay, instead of being able to duel more generally. This seems like it will only cause more problems than it will help.

CppLJul 30, 201851 votes

300 (+200% AD)?... is this real? So his Q is gonna be an execute now?? hmmm

D357R0Y3RJul 30, 201835 votes

It already is an execute, but instead of dealing more damage to tanks (8% missing health damage) it deals flat damage

Death by GlamourJul 30, 20181 votes

but instead of dealing more damage to tanks what are those?

is he actually doing that badly just now, tbh I imagined that they would end up giving him a unique jungle item to replace the warding one that was removed

LeetriJul 31, 20182 votes

Around 48% win rate globally.

HügöJul 31, 20186 votes

Which is ok for his allways high playrate.

TheOmegaBear09Jul 30, 201810 votes

{quoted}

    [Removed]  Resonating Strike (Q2) No longer deals 8% of target&amp;#039;s missing health as damage.

It already was an execute. This will increase it's execute damage on squishies, while possibly decreasing it against tanks.

Weiss GuertenaAug 1, 20183 votes

450 (+300% AD) actually if you count both Q1 and Q2. Good to know that he's getting an ultimate-level in terms of damage execute on a basic ability.

CppLAug 2, 20182 votes

well worlds are coming ,he needs to be played.

BisaknospJul 30, 201822 votes

these numbers look retarded lol cant they fix his no counterplay r q combo before they give him that amount of damage? ik he aint good atm but his early and mid vs squishy comps can still be godlike

Int Like RickonJul 30, 20182 votes

Have you tried not walking into melee range? That seems like inherent counter-play to a low range skill...

AhpeJul 30, 201819 votes

Yes classic counterplay to so many champions.

"Don't get too close."

He could always just Q to you then wait for Q to be up, R then Q again.

Most Lee Sins' build 30% CDR so he would only have to wait 5 seconds for his next Rank 5 Q to come back up while he E2'd so you can't get away.

Aram Mama Jul 31, 20185 votes

yeah,he doesent even have to hit Q he can just dash on his ward slow you with E and kick you like the animal , if you have dash/blink/flash he just marks you with Q and waits out so he can follow you and execute you.

Z3SleeperJul 30, 201836 votes

summoner 4 https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/f/f1/Safeguard.png/revision/latest?cb=20130929123013

Just don't walk into melee range /s

Bob the ToastrJul 31, 20184 votes

More like jUsT dON't wALK iNtO mELeE rAnGE

BLIGHTBRINGERJul 31, 20189 votes

That guy also seemed to forget the fact that Lee Sin has 345 base movement where as most other champions have 325-335.

D357R0Y3RJul 30, 201821 votes

we don't balance only around pro play

here now you stand corrected

if they only balanced around pro wukong wouldn't have got nerfed

BlåbæretJul 30, 201820 votes

Don't understand why this cancer champion even exists. Back to permaban then.

Witch of BabylonJul 30, 201810 votes

Lee Sin doesn't even look like cancer compared to the other cancers

Faceroll TacticsJul 31, 201817 votes

He was the original cancer, before Yasuo, before Zoe, before Ghostcrawler, before Quinn, before them all.

GayFluffyUnicornJul 31, 20188 votes

Lee sin was THE OG cancer champ. Overloaded way too forgiving kit and one of the first champs who should have been reworked but the community outcry stopped ritos plans.

AR URFAug 1, 20181 votes

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Don't understand why this cancer champion even exists. Back to permaban then.

He exists to keep assassins off of the ADC if played correctly. Why are you people so against protecting the ADC?

saltranJul 30, 201815 votes

Rito balances only for the very big LC$ big plays and doesn't care about the 99% of the players I'm extremly disapppointed, I hate the balance team and I love the Gameplay Boards, also EA bad.

(Fuck, this is bad for KT since Score isn't a Lee Sin player, I hate you Rito and this time I will side with the circlejerk)

DlXONJul 31, 20182 votes

I mean didn't they nerf wu? Wasn't that a solo queue nerf?

FlemmanJul 30, 201813 votes

I don't like when there is a "based on target missing health" on a spell description.

It's just so vague, how much % health did the enemy need to miss to reach 200%?

Daddy AntsJul 30, 20185 votes

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I don't like when there is a "based on target missing health" on a spell description.

It's just so vague, how much % health did the enemy need to miss to reach 200%?

I'm going to presume it's the same as Veigar's missing health mechanic.

The spell will do maximum damage if the target is at 33% or less HP.

DorkunedAurasJul 31, 20181 votes

It's direct 1:1. For every 1% the opponent is missing, gain 1% damage.

FlemmanJul 31, 20181 votes

If it's the case then how do you reach 200%

InTheoryJul 31, 20181 votes

0% missing health = 100% bAD

FlemmanJul 31, 20182 votes

obviously, so 100% missing health (dead) is 200% bAD

can you see where i come from with the vague "scale with missing health" problem

InTheoryJul 31, 20181 votes

It is at least possible. Taking Jhin's R as example which is noted as 25% increased damage per 10% missing health (exact numbers are given) that go up to 250% at 100% missing health.

But I know where you're coming from and it is important to know what an abilities threshhold is. Same is going to be with Akali's new R where I don't have information about the threshholds yet either.

DorkunedAurasJul 31, 20181 votes

Riot typically specifies if the ability doesn't scale 1:1 with missing HP (like Veigar's ult). If it doesn't specify, it's assumed it's just 1:1

InTheoryJul 31, 20182 votes

Do you have Shaco? If so, could you jump into practice tool to check the ability tooltip for his e which has a 0.5% damage increase per 1% missing health.

LegitBusinessmanJul 30, 20189 votes

This is literally the stupidest crap I've ever seen.

Leto GTJul 30, 20187 votes

It's just forcing tank and bruiser build into pure AD. Which makes it him even less playable in proper scene imo.

Aram Mama Jul 31, 20182 votes

Same happened with reksai.

DorkunedAurasJul 31, 20182 votes

Which is exactly what the Rek'Sai mains wanted. They want to be a high damage diver, not some fucking knockup bot. And if you ask the Rek'Sai mains, we're happy with her right now.

Aram Mama Aug 1, 20182 votes

reksai has mains?

PaffWasTakenJul 30, 20187 votes

this thing is actually nastier than getting shanked by a glass shard coming from a broken window back in chernobyl

Vlada CutJul 31, 20186 votes

100% bonus damage WTF?! Is balance team drunk again?! [zombie-brand-mindblown]

VelasanJul 31, 20185 votes

With so many things already broken can we just let Lee be weaker for one season. It's okay if he's not "top tier" in every single season.

lolipopevelynnJul 31, 20183 votes

To be fair these buffs are pretty insane and will also effect solo q. Assassin lee sin is back.

LibroMastroJul 31, 20183 votes

Yup, i'll keep the game uninstalled

Jaygo41Jul 31, 20183 votes

But Lee Sin is balanced. Why do this? Like, what's the point?

JackMcSnipeyzJul 31, 20182 votes

Lee has been pretty weak espacially in the LCS for a looong time now, a year+.

I'm not saying the buff is healthy, but stop pretending like there is an agenda, lee has been out of the spotlight for ages, i barely see him even in normals.

AseraanJul 31, 20184 votes

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Lee has been pretty weak espacially in the LCS for a looong time now, a year+.

I'm not saying the buff is healthy, but stop pretending like there is an agenda, lee has been out of the spotlight for ages, i barely see him even in normals.

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Andrey0345Jul 31, 20182 votes

Wait when I first saw this I thought it was just a joke. I couldn't believe my eyes when I actually looked up pbe 8.15 and saw it there.

Reaper SorakaAug 1, 20182 votes

Stopwatch

Time of activation pushed to later in the game.

In patch 8.4, we pushed the activation time of Stopwatch to 10 minutes because its prevalence in professional play was delaying or inhibiting early action. In 8.10 we tried a lower value (8 minutes), but we've begun observing the same impact on pro play, so we're reverting those changes. ACTIVATION TIME 8 minutes ⇒ 10 minutes

not ONE word mentions ranked play, even toward master/challengers. It's 100% toward "pro play".

Lee is probably the same case, he's already pretty strong when he gets ahead. Let's see him get a ban rate like Yasuo.