slated for buffs soon, then probably getting more with his class update
won't be a knockup bot anymore
VGU in the immediate future
VGU sometime next year
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planned for larger changes soon
being ignored for another year
Who's more hype for old champions being made less shitty
xxxDogmanxxx2 votesI'm gearing up for the Diver class rework. My man 
is so outdated, his champion abilities page still shows the old Summoner's Rift texture.
Tormentula1 votesI'm gearing up for the Diver class rework. My man
Twitch's ability pages still shows the old twitch.
xxxDogmanxxx1 votesI read your Summoner Name as "LVL 100 Shaniqua".
Rivuo1 votesIm still waiting for Soraka to get nerfed for the 20th fucking time because shes not a balanceable champ
Big Lincoln1 votesya she needs a niche other than just spamming heals, imo
i think she would be healthier mid tbqf with you
Rivuo1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TsAfdv0f,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-12-02T17:48:05.473+0000)
ya she needs a niche other than just spamming heals, imo
i think she would be healthier mid tbqf with you
Shes not a champ that can be balanced. She hit a 55% win rate twice in the last week.
LostFr0st1 votesD:< Stay away from .
They'll eventually probably remove the rocks. Everything else is solid.
Big Lincoln1 votesnew skarner rework spires replaced with more skarners and he has to protect them all game
LostFr0st1 votes 
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Shahamut1 votesE is overloaded man... Im sorry, but it doesn't feel good maxing E first on this champ. But it is definitely the optimal way to play.
LostFr0st1 votesYou don't have to max E. It refunds its own cd. Q-->W is good.
Shahamut2 votesQ -> W is good, but E->W is better.
Lower base cooldown, bigger slow, more burst damage. Q gives only slightly better sustained damage. Which would you rather have in a gank? Better CC and more burst wins hands down.
Also, in a full combo (I also run 45% cdr on him) I can hit a max range E, Run up, ult and drag back, proc stun and E will already be up to slow and stun him again.
45% cdr also makes your shield a 6.5 second cooldown I think? and the duration is 6 seconds. Just a plug for cdr there.
LostFr0st1 votesI completely hear you. Both are viable. Q is just more consistent since he gets a more brainless fast clear without the intricacies of spacing out the E procs to get passive while clearing out the multi-minion camps^^
They're also not going to do the E--->R then stun either. And we both know they'll proc that shiet as soon as they get in auto range ;)
I didn't creep and look you up otherwise I would have never suggested Q-->W to you... woops.
and yeah, it pisses me off too when people run him without much cdr... such a waste.
Shahamut1 votesLawl, I play Skarner top lane more than jungle :P Just to say how much I hate his passive rocks :P
But yeah, if you don't plan on ganking and just wanna power farm and maybe just focus on the counter jungling, I guess Q max wouldn't be too bad, but personally, I think ganking is more effective for snowballing the game. But personally, I think in the early game especially, E max will still be better in case you run into that pesky enemy jungler. Burst is just op right now.
EDIT- Also, if you ever have a Skarner top lane and are playing jungle... FOR GOD's SAKE GANK! lol ITS SO FREE AND THEY WILL ALMOST ALWAYS PUSH HIM UNDER EARLY! :P
LostFr0st1 votesI guess his laning matchups would be like Udyr top or more like Poppy? Or am I completely off-base?
I promise I'll remember that last bit^^ My bro would never forgive me either if I didn't gank that.
Shahamut1 votesHis matchups aren't too awful, you just have to play SUPER safe against most meta tops because they are all bullies.
As long as you farm well though, Skarner scales a lot harder than most top laners with items. I would NOT pick him into something you need to bully, like Nasus. Your damage early is just not enough for him to care without CONSTANT ganks. Add me if you want and Ill play it top for you, or go find my most recent skarner game on replay.gg. I think I beat a Swain up pretty bad in that one after a few (non-completed) items. Used a fairly rediculous build too if Im not mistaken :P
EDIT- if you are interested actually here:
http://www.replay.gg/search/na/shahamut#2360877465
12/6/11 vs Swain top I believe
LostFr0st1 votesI have exams soon; I shouldn't even be on the boards right now let alone in a League game. I'm procrastinating 'cause studying is icky. :3
I'll creep on one of your replays during studying though^^ ty for the offer.
Tormentula1 votesBut is good right now.
Shahamut1 votesThe only reason Skarner is good right now is because his E is overloaded.
Low Base Damage with Decent scaling (not that you build much if any AP) Ranged pass through slow, Marks targets Procing the mark: --- Bonus Damage --- One Second Stun --- Reduce E cooldown --- Grants one second of his passive bonus AS/MS/Man regen
Chain his CC together and you have 2.75 seconds of singletarget lockdown plus directed displacement.
He is numerically in a good spot right now, if numbers and win rate is all you care about. But overall, I don't like him as is.
Passive is a contestable mini-game that had to be overtuned to be good, and is now more or less useless. (I play him and forget they even exist). Q is not his bread and butter skill, his E is; which given his overall playstyle and feel just seems wrong. He is currently a single target pick monster, which in my mind, used to be a sideline benefit, not his whole identity.
Tormentula1 votesThe only reason Skarner is good right now is because his E is overloaded.
Low Base Damage with Decent scaling (not that you build much if any AP) Ranged pass through slow, Marks targets Procing the mark: --- Bonus Damage --- One Second Stun --- Reduce E cooldown --- Grants one second of his passive bonus AS/MS/Man regen
Chain his CC together and you have 2.75 seconds of singletarget lockdown plus directed displacement.
He is numerically in a good spot right now, if numbers and win rate is all you care about. But overall, I don't like him as is.
Passive is a contestable mini-game that had to be overtuned to be good, and is now more or less useless. (I play him and forget they even exist). Q is not his bread and butter skill, his E is; which given his overall playstyle and feel just seems wrong. He is currently a single target pick monster, which in my mind, used to be a sideline benefit, not his whole identity.
Play style wise yea I agree he needs changes. He feels like a more useful shyvana right now, but like shy he's still weak without having to burn a summoner for a kill he may or may not get in the early game. He falls into that "why not hecarim" category.
Personally the only thing I wish they changed was the passive, and make the Q more satisfying. I don't mind the "q spam" but it feels like it does nothing the majority of the time if you don't build warrior enchantment.
Actually, I just max E first if I'm going cinder since the rank up scaling of Q is really awful without AD for it to scale off of, at least E has good damage on it's own + reduced cooldown + longer slow and stun when maxed.
Shahamut1 votesAlways Max E first... It doesn't matter your build. It has better burst, dmg, bigger slow, lower cooldown.
I think Skarner was close to what he needed to be pre-juggernaut:
Passive: Crystal Venom- Stack 3 spells on a target to proc a stun with auto, or gain bonus dmg per stack on Ult.
Q- gain bonus MS/AS per stack, max 5 stacks (I think?)
W- The W changes are good, since the only difference is that his shield scales with health and has lower base. The MS steroid was identical though.
E- Ranged Slow, higher base dmg.
R- Remains constant.
This kit was so close to hitting the mark for me. Could it have used a little bit? yes. But man, this was almost there. My opinion.
Tormentula1 votesAlways Max E first... It doesn't matter your build. It has better burst, dmg, bigger slow, lower cooldown.
I think Skarner was close to what he needed to be pre-juggernaut:
Passive: Crystal Venom- Stack 3 spells on a target to proc a stun with auto, or gain bonus dmg per stack on Ult.
Q- gain bonus MS/AS per stack, max 5 stacks (I think?)
W- The W changes are good, since the only difference is that his shield scales with health and has lower base. The MS steroid was identical though.
E- Ranged Slow, higher base dmg.
R- Remains constant.
This kit was so close to hitting the mark for me. Could it have used a little bit? yes. But man, this was almost there. My opinion.
I wouldn't always max it if I was building damage. Q does get a huge bonus off of warrior enchantment and it is your most spammed spell while wave clearing/jungle clearing much faster. If you're not building damage like warrior+trinity rush then maxing Q is just trying to make you tickle more since the gain per rank is pretty sucky, its the bonus AD scaling that increases and makes the huge difference but if you lack AD to scale off of forget it. E hurts because the numbers the base AP increases off of is still really good and makes a huge difference from rank 1, in addition to the other stuff with the slows, cd, stun, blah blah.. but you'll notice it becoming less efficient if you're doing a squishy bruiser build with warrior enchantment.
Personally I see no reason to rush warrior on skarner and just max E in almost every instance. Both cinder and warrior make you a monster but one at least lets you live in fights better while still being a monster. It bothers me when people take warrior over cinder as much as when people take ghost over flash on him, cause one is just infinitely better. (why run fast to chase someone, and potentially get kited/stunned, when you can just flash ult and turn a teamfight 5v4 for your team..)
Shahamut1 votesWhen playing jungle, I pretty much skip getting my enchant until after I finish Tri-force. If I want dmg, I just get 
because it helps me take objectives faster than warrior. Otherwise I go Cinderhulk.
Q does well enough clearing without being maxed, and E max can clear fast as well. The reason I always max E first though? Ganks. 100% ALWAYS better for ganks.
Either way, the spires have to go. He needs to be retweaked and tuned, because he is not and has never been a juggernaught.
While Im ranting, there is a good way and a bad way to do contestable passives in a kit. A good example would be Kindred:
Every camp that she can take to gain stacks of her passive can be contested. It encourages the player to think about counter jungling (on both sides) but when kindred is successful, they get a permanent buff that helps them scale into the later game.
Skarner's is a poor example of this. All of the points can be contested constantly. The benefits are all or nothing, so if Skarner is ahead, and his team is on point, they control the zones and Skarner is a terror within them. If Skarner is behind or his team is just not all there, they are constantly taken giving him no benefit, and depending on how far behind he is, the zones don't make him that much stronger. The power of the zones is almost impossible to balance as well. When the zone buffs where strong, they made for a VERY contestable objective, but Skarner was too strong within. Hence the 63% winrate first week out. Riot wasn't satisfied with it until it was so weak that I can basically play Skarner and ignore the fact that I have the zones in the first place. They basically help with first clear at this point and are good for not going oom.
rant over. Sorry :P
agbudar1 votes 
its official buddy you are now a more forgotten champ then urgot and galio combined
Big Lincoln1 votesi don't think he's immediate priority?
i really want him to get another mini-rework like shyv just got, but i would rather he have his old kit until he gets a VGU. and i don't expect him to get that until after urgot.
Penns1 votesDepends on how much fun to play against theyre gonna be. Atm Im most excited for cotc and Shyv nerfs as well as Fizz buffs.. if they ever happen lul.
sheldonbunny1 votesI'm actually dreading Galio's rework. He's been one of my mains for mid for years and Riot is so hit or miss on their reworks. I honestly enjoy his kit as is. It's not shitty, it just requires people to understand how to play him and teams to understand it as well.
So for me, definitely more interested in Camille than that rework.
Neko Caitlyn1 votesGreat...tanks getting buffed. Just what we need,
/s
Big Lincoln3 votesnone of these champs are even tanks lol
they're trying to make her build more damage and not just go full tank every game which i support
Neko Caitlyn1 votes ???
Big Lincoln1 votes mage
bruiser
isnt getting changed that was the joke
being made not a tank, i just said that
Ralanr1 votesGalio is actually meant to be a tank, specifically for mages.
He's just designed poorly for that and is just built straight mage.
Big Lincoln1 votesjust built straight mage.
then he's a mage, lol.
more interesting that way too, riot tanks are boring meatshields and CC bots
Ralanr1 votesI respectfully disagree on tanks in general (I can't stand Malphite) being boring. Galio just fails at what he's supposed to be, hence the rework.
Big Lincoln1 votesimo boring tanks 
i rly only like 
tho so im bias
Ralanr1 votesI like Shen's dueling, Alistar is a bit simple but I don't find him mind numbing boring, Amumu is hilarious (I just type HUGS in all chat whenever I kill with him) Rammus I can see, Maokai is meh, BRAUM is fun for me.
I don't play Zac enough to give an opinion.
Why don't you list Malphite? Outside of his ult he's boring as shit.
Big Lincoln1 votesthought i listed him, he's a snooze
Shen feels like he's trying to be 2 things at once, a fighter and a peel tank. i still think he should be made closer to a juggernaut or bruiser because we've yet to receive one that's actually defensively oriented. 
had potential but he's been thoroughly gutted to make sure he never leaves support and riot had other plans for 
Ralanr1 votesWouldn't a defensive oriented juggernaut be against the very nature of a damage dealing class?
Big Lincoln1 votesnot really. he's just more focused on doing damage to people he's trying to defend.
is more or less doing that as a tank right now
Ralanr1 votesBut what's to stop other juggernauts from doing that?
Big Lincoln1 votesmanliness
Ralanr1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TsAfdv0f,comment-id=00070000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-02T20:08:31.409+0000)
manliness
Volibear sadly isn't manly because he is a bear.
BIackfox1 votes[{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TsAfdv0f,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-12-02T18:50:19.263+0000)
none of these champs are even tanks lol
Upvoted for knowing reksai is a woman
Big Lincoln1 votesstrong independent womyn