More defensive mana options

LilxPaprika··2 votes·508 views

say i have item 3071 item 3142 item 3074 now i want to add mr, armor and mana i could get item 3110 item 3102 but then im exceeding cdr cap. if i get item 3025 then im getting more mana and more cdr than i care to have and don't have enough armor. I could get item 3222, but the support aspect to it is crap if i plan on using it on myself, especially without utility tree.

i miss the old banshee's veil for this sort of build.

this build could work fine with the old banshee's item 3102 item 3143 item 3111/ item 3047

Maybe there could be a duo resist item with mana, something like zzrot,GA but with 200 mana on it. Say with 45 mr, 45 armor.

rip:

V3.10:

Recipe changed: Spectre's Cowl.png Spectre's Cowl + Ruby Crystal item.png Ruby Crystal + 875g = 2750g (total cost increased from 2520g) Old recipe: Negatron Cloak item.png Negatron Cloak + Catalyst the Protector item.png Catalyst the Protector + 600g = 2520g Health increased to 450 from 400. Magic resist increased to 55 from 45. Mana reduced to 0 from 300. New Unique Passive: Grants +45 health regen per 5 seconds for up to 10 seconds after taking damage from an enemy champion or when the spell shield breaks.

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UdoIkOSc4u1 votes

Ryze

LilxPaprika1 votes

i read somewhere that he scales less with mana now, that true...? also item 3010 would have less than before at 250 mana as opposed to 300 i would modify catalyst to give 250 mana and cost like 1125 gold instead of 1200.

also judging by the new item 3027 giving 800 mana at 10 stacks this will be the least of your worries. (especially now that he doesn't need cdr he can just tack roas)

i would rather they keep item 3027 's passive to give 20 mana per stack. 40 mana scares me. Also pretty much throws the need for mana management out the window which i thought was a key aspect to the game. minding your mana bar will be a thing of the past once past the 25 minute mark. that's 200 mana pretty much how much the banshee would give.

i'd rather that than a ryze with two ROA giving him 1600 mana!

If he got the banshee with catalyst he would get less hp/and or mr on the back end as ell than the old one. Something like 400 hp and Magic resist decreased to 50 from 55.

for the longest time we could say the same about frozen heart. but its wasn't broken. look at singe too who also gains from mana with passive. no that his ult gives him 30% cdr tho FH isn't as optimal on him.

also thats what a passive does, it gives you a boost. In this case 250 mana shouldn't break the character. Its less worrisome than a late game stacking veigar passive imo.

Attached picture with the ability to choose from what item to build banshees out of. Final stats vary a bit but not enough to change the item's identity. Could have a tiny icon on lower right of the icon to signify which you got like for upgraded boots. a bit like this idea: http://i.imgur.com/iX6sSWD.jpg

also the old banshee's was pretty cost effective. at 2520g it had 45 mr 400 hp and 300 mana. this new one would cost 2750 give 250 mana, 300 hp and 50 mr. so about 100 gold less cost effective.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

Ryze is the reason BV lost its mana, and it he certainly doesn't need it back. He's also not the only one who has something that scales with mana, and neither of them need another defensive option that benefits them more than it already does.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

-> add item 3180 to SR

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