full ad team comps don't get punished enough...

2.5 > 2 how surprising [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Not to mention Maokai is one of the more disgusting tanks to fight because of his passive.

To be fair, though, Cowsep had no lifesteal. He should have fought that.

only took him 1 and a half lane with red buff + red smite + being a whole item and a half ahed + having maoki just letting him free hit him for 99% of the time. idk, seems like a pretty long tanking time, if this was in a teamfight he would wreck so much havoc until he goes down, far from you average board scenario of "tanks melt in 2 seconds"

Shhh, dont anger the circle jerk didnt you hear? all AD champs 1 shot you from level 1 no matter what, and tanks can only survive 3 shots

The difference is you were playing Garen. He has a 60% damage reduction for 5 seconds (stronger defensive steroid than any tank you will find in the game) and deals decent damage on top of that. He also has naturally very high base stats, movement speed, and tenacity.

Garen technically has no weaknesses in a fight once he builds thornmail. And he is among the hardest to kill champions in the game, ironic considering how tanks are supposed to provide that for a team but fall short a lot.

I see your point in saying that full AD teams are not punished, but Garen is an outlier of the main issue, which happen to be tanks like Malphite and Rammus who suffer even when they're supposed to be up against a team that they counter hard.

That vayne was bad tbh

What I mean is that vayne can't kite garen extremely easy. And assuming her autos do zero damage she still does 108% true damage over 27 auto attacks. At 2.0 atspd (pretty standard vayne build) that's under 15 seconds. Count the damage from her autos and factor in the attack speed slow then either you were stupid fed or vayne was killing you by herself in about 7 seconds. Max. Or she was simply terrible at the game.

okay but what items did THEY have and levels and were they hitting you the whole time of was there chase in between ? were you fed and way ahead of them? You give nothing of the important context as how they engaged you. I'm not saying full AD aren't punished but i think you bring a bad argument. Because shit if that's the case i've tanked a team longer than i should have with nami and lived to tell about it.

To add onto this match history scan, Corki does magic damage. Don't build armor and expect that to do anything to him. Adaptive Helm is the best defensive item against him, but a Maw or Visage will work if you need it.

Yo, as an Urgot player who has looked extensively at his stats, particularly with regards to item builds/item orders, let me just say that you have a great intuition, but let me make a few additional suggestions.

Mallet is actually your rush item as Urgot. You want that shit ASAP, and its the highest spike to his winrate once that item is completed. It gives you every stat you want, AD. health, plus it slows on your auto attacks. This lets you make up for your self slow on W, this lets you stick like glue between making your E, R and Q easier to land, keeps people from getting away, and helps your allies pile on them too. However, you don't want to build this item with nothing else.

Instead, its actually better to get a phage on your first back, then boots and a Jaurim's Fist, which you'll then make into FM, followed by completing BC for your second item. New Urgot doesn't need mana, and while CDR is nice, its not crucial once you have at least your BC. I would recommend getting a Sterak's Gage if you're ahead/snowballing at that point (FM + BC + SG is an incredibly strong pairing) Or going straight to hp + resist items.

Against auto attackers an early Bramble Vest is great, but I wouldn't complete TM for a while. As you mentioned, against magic damage you typically want Adaptive (if it helps against the magic you're facing ofc) or a SV. For armor TM is great as is Randuin's (especially the active slow and crit reduction).

I wouldn't get more than 2-3 hybrid offensive and defensive items, and wouldn't get any pure offensive items.

Taric is nice too.

That W passive tho

This.

full ad team comps get absolutely dumpstered if the enemy has a brain.

Try playing full ad against a team with Rammus/Sej jungle, and Malphite top. You will want to kill yourself.

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: u focking w0t m8?

as someone who plays a lot of rammus i can say that ive had my fair share of games against full ad teams where i still got melted by their team despite a full build of straight armor. part of the problem is that theres so much stuff to get around armor (and now with LW changes you can get a buttload of penetration for cheap) and on top of that armor items are just nowhere near as strong as they used to be

Funny.. I remember in season 5 if Rammus was picked and you had full AD you automatically lost. He was practically unkillable. Him and malphite both. Now, after a certain amount of time, I watch both of them get obliterated.

Mundo loves stacking resistances and health. Stacking health alone simply doesn't work in today's LoL. There is too much %hp damage going around to even consider it.