Lethality isn't the only thing making assassins broken right now...

Cloud273··6 votes·1,642 views

Yes, lethality is WAY too good in it's current state (duskblade needs to be removed from the game, literally impossible to balance), but assassins have received many other indirect buffs over the years. In particular, the removal of point and click cc. We used to have stuff like Taric stun, Soraka Silence, Warwick ult, Sion stun, etc. But over the years all these reliable cc abilities have been removed with their reworks. Yes these champions have more counterplay, but in the end it means we have one less reliable tool to deal with assassins. There's a reason why champions like Fiddlesticks and Lulu have become such popular supports in LCS lately. These are some of the few reliable cc abilities we have left now, and reliable cc is worth it's weight in gold. Why are assassins allowed to keep their point and click burst, but we can't have our point and click cc?

Let's talk about other small things that are indirect assassin buffs

  1. Janna nerfs. Yes they were deserved, but Janna nerfs=assassin buffs.
  2. Electrocute. Apparently lethality/duskblade isn't enough burst. So Riot gives them even more burst.
  3. Zhonyas nerf. Remember when this item used to give 50 armor and 120 ap? Too bad it's sh*t now.
  4. Objective buffs. Infernal drake, Baron buffs, and elder drake buffs. Tons of damage.

7 Comments

Fízz v23 votes

There's a reason why champions like Fiddlesticks and Lulu have become such popular supports in LCS lately

but assassins arent even played in lcs Poggers

Princess Nunu1 votes

lmfao these people who post in boards

Nyarlathοtep1 votes

Assassins arent played on lcs because they have teamwork there. Thats not going to happen at solo q.

Cloud2731 votes

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Assassins arent played on lcs because they have teamwork there. Thats not going to happen at solo q.

The fact that you need teamwork to actually deal with assassins is a problem in itself. The counter to something shouldn't be "mob them". There should be ACTUAL COUNTERPLAY to the champion's kit.

Warlord Rhinark2 votes

Not to mention the buff on Ignite.

Zerenza1 votes

Very Few assassins have point and click burst maybe?

Akali(rework comming soon), Talon(though he still has 2 skillshots but they are hard to avoid, he's getting nerfed though.), Nocturn(requires lvl 6 unless your already inting.) Kha'Zix okay you can have that one. Leblanc? Debatable i guess, Shaco? He got nerfed out of burst a long time ago. Rengar? A bit too easy to shut down but i mean yeah, mostly point and click i agree.

So 6, six out of the 16 total assassins have point and click burst combo's.

The rest of them are riddled with Skill-shots and most don't have any CC either, or if they do they pay a price for it, or it's very hard to land.

Ekko: Lowest burst of any Assassin, he only has 2 abilities that burst and his CC ability is arguably the hardest to land in the game but it's his only reliable way to kill someone in under 3 seconds. Evelynn: Extremely high burst, no mobility, a charm that takes 2.5 seconds to arm and tells you where she's at, she's basically screaming at you "Get the hell out." but people don't listen. Zed: Point and Click R with a delayed burst that requires you to hit your other abilities first, if he's fed sure he can jump out of a bush and double Q+AA you but i mean, that's true for literally everyone in the game. Fizz: Okay Point and Click Q that does basically no damage since you have to max your E or die, hard to land skillshot ultimate that accounts for nearly 40% of your total damage, requires level 6 to one shot. Katarina: I don't think i have to explain this but katarina is fucking hard to play, her E might be point and click but the vast majority of her damage comes from her Passive procs, which you have to play around in order to play her properly at all. Kayn: He's probably one of the easiest assassins to play but when going Assassin kayn if you miss your W, good luck killing anyone because that's where most of your burst comes from, your R is a point and click delayed extra damage ability(like Zed) but your not one shotting someone with it. Pyke: This %%%%%'s a support. Ahri: You NEED to land your E, if you don't you do legit 0 damage, unless your fed but again that's the same for any champion. Kassadin: Direct counter to mages and AP assassins in the mid-lane, takes a long time to get to where he needs to be to burst someone and more often than not can't do it at all until he gets to that point.

Also let me point something out, these are legit ALL OF THE ASSASSINS IN THE GAME, that are actually building like assassins, riot might list Riven and Fiora as assassins but they DO NOT build like them and don't have the burst usually either. Do you know how many ASSASSINS build duskblade? 8 of them, do you know how many are AP Assassins? 8 of them, that's right, when your discussing ASSASSINS don't lump them all together as Duskblade user's, because half of them can't even build the item and get anything out of it.

LegitBusinessman1 votes

I'm also down 9 armor lost from seals and they maintained their armor pen from that mobility + armor pen rune.

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