The difference between off-meta builds, bizarre experimentation and trolling

Lost R··1 votes·864 views

I experiment. I'm curious. I don't make builds based on what Lolking or op.gg says. I look at each individual champion and figure out what works with them, what doesn't, and what MIGHT work.

My latest experimentation is Titanic Hydra on Cho'gath.

Long story short, it works.

Cho'gath already has an attack that attacks in a cone, and the Titanic Hydra syncs up perfectly with both it and the fact that Cho'gath can stack HP like nobody's business, further improving its power. It makes him a beast for pushing and defending lanes (one TH active almost destroys an entire minion wave in one hit by mid game) and gives him a powerful burst attack (combined with his E, almost 500 AOE damage!) on the active during fights with enemy champions. As a buffer, I use a Wit's End to increase his attack speed and magic resist. Since Cho'gath deals magic damage and the Wit's End strips what little magic resist most champions usually have, it works like a dream when combined with his AOE attacks and gives him something to do between cooldowns.

And I make weird experiments like this all the time.

The problem is other people are so used to building what metas tell them to build and have had curiosity both figuratively and literally beaten out of them, they see Cho'gath march in with a Titanic Hydra and they immediately call me a troll. And that's the case with just about everything. Nami has a Lich Bane? Troll. Morgana has a Liandry's Torment? Troll. Jinx with Runaan's Hurricane? Troll. Machinegun Lulu (something I did long before it was a thing)? Troll.

People don't know the difference between bizarre builds and straight up trolling. An AP Vayne is trolling. A guy who autotilts and runs endlessly into the enemy's axe is trolling. Someone who enters a game just to AFK after calling everyone a c$!kf@$king n#@!# d$((@! f%%#&t is trolling.

But you want to know the best part? The things that work only enter the meta once a professional player does it. Even if it was considered heresy that makes players autotilt the week before, it becomes a religion after a professional has proven it works. These things don't just evolve in a vacuum or by a professional or Riot's decree. They have to be discovered, and as long as you act as linear and binary as an Adeptus Mechanicus, new build ideas will continue to remain undiscovered.

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Moesnd1 votes

Runaans on jinx is meta and no one will call you a troll for building liandries on morgana

Lost R1 votes

Except everyone has challenged me for building both.

deadlychuck1 votes

LoL i've done that build on cho since the release of titanic hydra xD I figured it was just par now.

That said, i think the real difference between trolling and off-meta isn't if it works. It's if it scales.

AP zed is trolling.

AP varus is secret OP... but you didn't hear it from me.

Lost R1 votes

I've seen a lot of Cho'gaths not build the Hydra, and then when I picked him up recently, I got called a troll in every game I built it. At the same time, we only lost.... less than half of the games I was in and only one case might have been directly my fault (and that was before the Hydra was even built).

Erockandroll1 votes

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I've seen a lot of Cho'gaths not build the Hydra, and then when I picked him up recently, I got called a troll in every game I built it. At the same time, we only lost.... less than half of the games I was in and only one case might have been directly my fault (and that was before the Hydra was even built).

Too many people assume that Cho'gath is going to be that Tanky Caster. (Though I recall that Wit's end Bruiser build was a thing long before I joined league.)

Though I would say this about a Bruiser Cho'gath with. Figure out what such a build will do for him, figure out what role he can fill with such a build, and figure out what sets him apart/makes him better, in that particular role. Otherwise, he may be filling such a role sub optimally. (Though I wouldn't call that trolling)

But there is a lot of roles he can potentially fill, so go ahead and experiment.

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