Ari having three dashes on her ult means that she's a get in your face champion

awdaf··3 votes·302 views

So if she's such a get in your face champion, why is her Q and E range so long? I think a viable nerf to her would be shortening the range of those abilities, seeing as how she can close the distance and use them point blank most of the time.

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HalcyonDweller4 votes

If the dashes were targeted like Katarina blink or Akali ultimate then I might agree with you.

But technically she is considered a 'kite' mage. her whole kit is designed around it. Take a look at the Q movement speed, the E charm, and how most pro players use her ult in fights / teamfights. It's actually better that her Q has such a long range, it forces her to use the ult to re-position it for the return damage.

I respectfully disagree with your idea, because this change would gut Ahri. There are better ways to balance her before we have to resort to that.

EDIT: A better way to keep her from wanting to close the distance and land free skillshots is to change the damage and/or cc duration to scale up with distance hit. But this might create other problems for her theme and playstyle.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

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If the dashes were targeted like Katarina blink or Akali ultimate then I might agree with you.

But technically she is considered a 'kite' mage. her whole kit is designed around it. Take a look at the Q movement speed, the E charm, and how most pro players use her ult in fights / teamfights. It's actually better that her Q has such a long range, it forces her to use the ult to re-position it for the return damage.

I respectfully disagree with your idea, because this change would gut Ahri. There are better ways to balance her before we have to resort to that.

EDIT: A better way to keep her from wanting to close the distance and land free skillshots is to change the damage and/or cc duration to scale up with distance hit. But this might create other problems for her theme and playstyle.

Her CC duration is not bad. Her charm is not so easy to hit. It can be body blocked and it shouldn't be too hard to land since it is a gate way to her dealing more damage.

Also, if she is a kite mage, why does her ult do free auto damage. Her ultimate has the characteristics of being a target that it deals free damage. Also, I don't think any one is really saying that her ult shouldn't do damage. It shouldn't do free damage. Making her ult have a cone in front of her, makes it so that she has to be constantly aggressive if she wants to deal that ultimate damage.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

NO

A better fix is to remove either

The free damage that ult grants. Rather, it should only damage things in a cone in front of her. This way he has to use it aggressively for it to do the damage. or The free spell vamp she has. It makes trading with her a bit hard because all has to do is push the next minion wave with Q to get a huge chunk back.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

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The free damage that ult grants. Rather, it should only damage things in a cone in front of her. This way he has to use it aggressively for it to do the damage.

This is really cool, I don't think I've seen anybody else suggest this yet.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

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This is really cool, I don't think I've seen anybody else suggest this yet.

It irks me when I play a skill shot champion and she has the ability to dash three time, with her E active to do loads of free damage.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Completely understandable!

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Warlord Scrap1 votes

Compared to proto belt would the cone ve the same or smaller in your version.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

I think you meant to reply to xJLx MCHammer's comment, he won't receive a notification for a reply to my comment.

xJLx MCHammer1 votes

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Compared to proto belt would the cone ve the same or smaller in your version.

Half the size. Something akin to what' Rumble Q is but the range extending a bit more.

Warlord Scrap1 votes

ok i think that would really help

The Lost Marbles1 votes

Ahri's Q only has 880 range. It's actually a bit shorter than most ranged mage skillshots.

I'm not defending Ahri, I'm just stating the numbers.

chipndip11 votes

If they nerfed the range on her Q and E, you know they'd have to increase the reward for landing it, right?

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