but we don't want to give up any of our already high base damage even tho we've got CC on 3-4 spells hehe, we need kill pressure in lane too even though we want to be tanky teamfight gods
oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votesother champs have high damage out puts while have cc
Big Lincoln2 votesusually 1 cc spell
not 3
Anags1 votesWho has 3 hard cc spells?
chipndip11 votesZac
Big Lincoln2 votes
coincidentally all 3 of them are op
too but he booty and 
if you count that mini-snare on E but the supports are balanced because they aren't also huge damage threats
ProfDrDeath1 votesAlso, has only her ult and her mini-snare for AoE CC. Her main CC tool, Q, is single target, but super spammable (5 seconds base CD).
EndlessSorcerer1 votes 
if you count W's interrupt against dashes.
It's fairly common among tanks.
Anags1 votesAnd Sej and Zac are the only two with good winrates. And most of them have at least one very conditional cc. And it's not that common.
Galio was nerfed and is sporting a solid 44% winrate top now so I don't know why people complain about him in soloq after the recent patch.
Right now you are better off just playing tanks support or jungle and that is it.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes
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Big Lincoln1 voteswhat 2 cc do annie and ahri have? ahri has charm and annie has passive stun?
ashe has ult and her permaslow but she's not a tank and she's immobile af cait is op yasuo CC is more conditional than any tank's
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesannies stun passive and tibbers , if you dont think tibbers cc's you then dont run from it lol
ahris charm and well my bad i though her W slowed you as it attacked you maybe that was just the 
meta
Big Lincoln1 votesi think tibbers CC only if Annie uses her stun lol
she does build rylai tho, I hate it
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 voteswell to your point im being autofilled support like 5 times in row...
all maokai all tank build 5-0 http://imgur.com/UJUYt8v
9-7-87 kda for 13.71kda 58.6% kill participation
Big Lincoln1 votesop tank :^(
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesupdate
just finished another game. auto fill support maokai another win so 6-0 this time with a 2-1-26 kda and 58% kill participation
so now a total 11-8-113 kda 15.5
chipndip11 votesBut tanks don't build damage, nor do they scale well. They have higher base damage so they can potentially get tankier faster, unlike other champs that get kills and get more damage.
Big Lincoln2 votesthe issue is that new tanks are getting more cc than previous, without actually losing much in terms of damage besides sej. zac, galio in particular have this issue, being CC machines but still having the capacity to chunk people hard - tbh i think gragas is dumb in this regard too but he at least builds bruiser
the tradeoff has evidently disappeared and tank balance has gotten very fucky this season
support tanks are fine having monster amounts of cc because they're not going to do any damage at all
chipndip11 votesBut Galio falls off later in the game, posing a similar issue to Poppy's situation: If he's not allowed to be strong early, he's not going to be strong period. How is he going to be good at all as a Warden if there's no time he can go aggro and rake in gold because "muh dmg"?
It's the exact same thing that nerfed Poppy into the low tier for months, and we're doing it again.
Big Lincoln1 voteswell then don't put cc on 3 or all 4 spells and it won't be cancer when they have damage too
shen has 1 hard CC and it's completely fine that he gets to be a duelist. poppy? not at all
chipndip11 votesShen isn't as strong as Poppy/Galio early because he's comparatively stronger than other Wardens later in the game thanks to global utility on his ult. Poppy and Galio don't give people shields from anywhere on the map while teleporting to their location. Poppy in particular becomes nothing but a ram-bot come late game, with all her hard cc having conditions to their usage on top of all her damage being shaved off (R can't be combo'd off of during the knock-up, E has to hit a wall, W has to be dashed into). I can understand the argument that Galio should at least build some damage before he does some damage since he's actually meant to, but Poppy got royally fucked over due to people not understanding her powercurve.