Out of Top 8 highest winrate supports , 7 are tanks

Ahri Baka··2 votes·576 views

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Ardent Censer Unique Passive heal and shield power lowered from 10% to 8%

Mikael's Crucible Unique passive heal and shield power lowered from 20% to 15%

Redemption Unique Passive heal and shield power lowered from 10% to 8%

Why ? I know there are runes that are buffing supports with extra Shields and heals such as Aery and Guardian but that doesn't mean Supports must be nerfed , that doesn't mean all support can take the Resolve rune page just to get the Revitalize rune

just as much as how supports are buffed because of the new runes , other champion are buffed too and the damage is totally higher

Sona got murdered and her winrate dropped to 48% in a single patch , with the new items nerfs , she will be unplayable , her W needs buffs , instead it got nerfed m isn't she a support ? her W already gives bad heals

this game is all about cc, the one who get cc'ed first will most likely die due to the high damage everyone is doing , that's something the tank supports are providing , Nami Nami Q is one of the easiest skill shots to dodge , but what about Leona Ult or Blitzcrank Q ? if Nami Q is missed , the only thing you can do is spamming the heals which are going to be nerfed

I main mages , but I play support as a secondary role every time I get auto filled or someone instalocks or trolls because they are autofilled as support and my support champions are getting nerfed a little by little , if Those supports get nerfed more , people will start playing mages in bot lane as support such as Ahri Leblanc and Malzahar Lux Orianna in bot lane will be more popular than before or I'd rather going with those meta tanks supports which is not fun for me

and here it comes a Yasuo buff , I partly agree he needs some kind of buffs because he is getting harassed a lot in lane while he is a late game champion but he can't reach the late game since matches these days are way too snowbally that people are ending up surrendering at 15 because 2 inhibitors are already taken in 12 minutes so .. but the problem isn't about , why is he getting mr ? we all know how assassins are the problem , such as Zed Talon who can make his hp disappear with a small poke applying electrocute with item 3134 only , it's normal for him to suffer against Akali but yeah new runes are making it worse but as for Malzahar and Orianna even other mages are suffering because of them , so why is he getting the mr buff ?

I have a lot more to say but can't think about anything since I never enjoyed a single matches ever since this preseason started , I can't even play my mains [sg-janna]

9 Comments

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Something's odd here. Where did you get these winrate from? I use lolalytics as a source and was looking up Nami there. Nami

According to lolalytics, she has 52,78% winrate, which means she would be place 6 in your list. I was facing one today (I played Nautilus) and she felt insanely strong. She was healing... for... ages...

You didn't get her low, she was healing every few seconds and her mana didn't deplete as well, since she had Manaflow Band. I don't think that enchanter are that weak right now.

Another example: champion.gg lists 4 enchanters in the top 10 supports.

Ahri Baka1 votes

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Something's odd here. Where did you get these winrate from? I use politics as a source and was looking up Nami there. Nami

According to politics, she has 52,78% winrate, which means she would be place 6 in your list. I was facing one today (I played Nautilus) and she felt insanely strong. She was healing... for... ages...

You didn't get her low, she was healing every few seconds and her mana didn't deplete as well, since she had Manaflow Band. I don't think that enchanter are that weak right now.

Another example: champion.gg lists 4 enchanters in the top 10 supports.

even healing isn't enough , also the winrate In the pic was from op.gg , Namuihas 50% winrate " the support items nerf isnt there yet "

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

They said that these changes are aimed to make enchanter less reliant on these items in the long run and if it hits them too hard they are most likely buffing accordingly.

And Nami was negating any kind of poke in that game. We were just able to win lane since she became careless and allowed me to hook her way too often so we were able to burst her down.

I just think enchanters are actually stronger than people give them credit for.

Very Hard Engage1 votes

because they directly shut down whatever it is the enemy was trying to do. and they're supports, not tanks.

Hammermancer1 votes

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because they directly shut down whatever it is the enemy was trying to do. and they're supports, not tanks.

Taric isn't a tank

got it'

thanks to your insight I can now

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Very Hard Engage1 votes

let me put it this way, every support player ever, who has ever been capable of being next to the adc in the bot lane. has had a positive win rate for the past 4 years. except alistar who used to routinely be 47%.

only in a very small percentage, of a temporary situation, has a support had a -% win rate.

the current only 2 negative support win rates are bard and karma at 49%.

DemainaNyx1 votes

I get your point, but I think he means they aren't tanks in the sense that a support Nautilus will never be as strong as a top Nautilus. Support Naut will still be tanky, but not as tanky as he could be if he were top.

Ahri Baka1 votes

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because they directly shut down whatever it is the enemy was trying to do. and they're supports, not tanks.

yet the tanks can do more

FireDrizzle1 votes

Nautilus sup is strong? Oh yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have no problem with this. At least with a tank you can potenitally dodge something and most(not Thresh obv ) need to be close to their carry, but Janna, Lulu, Karma and Soraka give their adc invincibility through statchecking power. Why riot want to nerf Sona I dont know, she has the counterplay of being squishy and only having self peel with a high cooldown ult.

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