Sooo. Champion bias op?

The thigh guy·Apr 10, 2019·6 votes·1,411 views

Vayne is playable in 2 roles Yasuo is viable in 3 roles Zed is viable in 2 roles Lux is viable in 2 roles Riven is viable in 3 roles.

So why the fuck is Ezreal GUTTED any time he leaves botlane? :/

29 Comments

TheUrbanKitsuneApr 10, 20194 votes

Pray tell what other roles Zed and Riven can be played...??? Vayne is just too strong in general and needs a nerf. Yasuo ADC slips in and out of being a viable choice, mostly just see him mid, occasionally top but not as often. And if you're refering to Lux support, it's garbage. Why do people still think Lux is a support in 2019.

The thigh guyApr 10, 20191 votes

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Pray tell what other roles Zed and Riven can be played...??? Vayne is just too strong in general and needs a nerf. Yasuo ADC slips in and out of being a viable choice, mostly just see him mid, occasionally top but not as often. And if you're refering to Lux support, it's garbage. Why do people still think Lux is a support in 2019.

Zed is played top and mid. Riven is played top mid and jungle.

And yasuo adc is a current s tier pick.

SalronApr 10, 20192 votes

Watch out guys 49% WR rank 14 out of 19 S tier pick coming through https://u.gg/lol/champions/yasuo/build/?role=adc

The thigh guyApr 10, 20191 votes

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Watch out guys 49% WR rank 14 out of 19 S tier pick coming through https://u.gg/lol/champions/yasuo/build/?role=adc

Akali was a s tier pick with a 48% winrate. Ezreal was an s tier pick with a 49% winrate Urgot was a god tier pick with a 49% winrate People bitched about Lucien with a 48% winrate Cammile was at a 47% winrate when she was gutted Kai’sa was at a 49% winrate when she was gutted RYZE WAS AT A 44% WINRATE AND WAS NERFED

But you know. No champion bias what so ever.

PoskeApr 10, 20191 votes

ADC Yasuo is winrate wise the strongest yasuo and has been for years And it would be even more successful if people WOULD LEARN THAT YOU cannot play botlane without heal (I take exhaust for bruisers and tell my supports to take heal) or ADC yasuo without fleet, Or that Maxing Q on ADC Yasuo is also incorrect.

Take it from someone who was peeking chall with Yasuo ADC 1.5 years before it became a thing

To the OP Riven can jungle well but thats pretty much something only an OTP ala Dekar would do

Zed is stuck in midlane Lux is stuck in midlane but you cant stop girl gamers from supporting with her from my experience

Is Vayne really strong enough for toplane to a point she isn't just a worse Quinn Jayce? Well maybe in this rare timeframe

TheUrbanKitsuneApr 10, 20191 votes

Exhaust...? I feel ignite is still stupid strong in comparison. It's just better all around as a summoner, and gives you way more kill pressure in lane. I've haven't seen any Yasuo ADC's around for a few patches here anyway. So I assume it's back to being a niche pick.

I agree with you on pretty much everything else. OP just wants to complain about Ezreal.

PoskeApr 11, 20191 votes

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Exhaust...? I feel ignite is still stupid strong in comparison. It's just better all around as a summoner, and gives you way more kill pressure in lane.

Yasuo needs exhaust to combat bruisers / juggernauts The only time I take ignite is when I am up against raka

I've haven't seen any Yasuo ADC's around for a few patches here anyway. So I assume it's back to being a niche pick.

Yasuo ADC has been top tier pick since Yasuo release and still is doubting that sentence is normal but I am just saying the true Granted you had to own Yasuo page with Lifesteal quints in s3 any everyone was worse at Yasuo

I cant control how good players are at this game, I could If I were a league youtuber to an extent but eh.

For example Quadraproc LB build was core a highest possible DPS / Burst build possible yet you had ret*rded fks rushing gunblade / Ludens whatever

l love AhriApr 10, 20194 votes

Zed and Riven is only viable in 1 role...

YUUKI VKApr 10, 20191 votes

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Zed and Riven is only viable in 1 role...

pretty sure riven can go jungle top mid, the best people that faceroll that cuck champ are able to with ease since she lacks any sense of counterplay

The thigh guyApr 10, 20192 votes

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Zed and Riven is only viable in 1 role...

Zed is being played top as well now because tanks are irrelevant.

Riven can be played top mid and jungle.

l love AhriApr 10, 20193 votes

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Zed is being played top as well now because tanks are irrelevant.

Riven can be played top mid and jungle.

He's off pick. Zed gets wrecked by Darius, Jax...etc

Riven mid and jungle? Again, that's probably off pick. Not meta at all.

The thigh guyApr 10, 20191 votes

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He's off pick. Zed gets wrecked by Darius, Jax...etc

Riven mid and jungle? Again, that's probably off pick. Not meta at all.

Ezreal mid wasn’t “meta” either and it got him gutted. So why are these champions being treated different?

Critmaster GarenApr 10, 20191 votes

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Zed and Riven is only viable in 1 role...

riven is situationally viable in mid lane.

boricCentaur1Apr 10, 20192 votes

Ummm no basically all of those champions are only played in one role like where are you getting this idea from if yas was good in 3 roles he would have a much higher playrate in those roles but he doesn't he is only played mid.

Like what did you lose to a yas adc that just snowed I can play gnar adc too and snowball and win. All those champions are not good in there off roles vayne top sucks it doesn't help your team and can be easily ganked, yas actually loses a lot of top lane match ups

The thigh guyApr 10, 20191 votes

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Ummm no basically all of those champions are only played in one role like where are you getting this idea from if yas was good in 3 roles he would have a much higher playrate in those roles but he doesn't he is only played mid.

Like what did you lose to a yas adc that just snowed I can play gnar adc too and snowball and win. All those champions are not good in there off roles vayne top sucks it doesn't help your team and can be easily ganked, yas actually loses a lot of top lane match ups

Vayne bot/top Riven top/mid/jungle Yasuo bot/mid/top Zed top/mid Lux mid/sup

Yet Ezreal dares to be at a 48% winrate bot and a 47% winrate mid and got his ap ratios gutted because “silly ad, you can’t leave your role” except Vayne for some fucking reason.

Morgana is another example of this. Suddenly she is PLAYABLE mid. Not even good. PLAYABLE. And riot gutted her mid viability. I don’t see riven’s Jungle viability being taken away.

boricCentaur1Apr 10, 20191 votes

Thanks for not reading my post I said there not viable in there off roles if they were they would be played more in them but there not there play rates are very very low in them and I said why vayne top sucks since it does it is not good. Different roles require different skills just because a champion like vayne has a off role doesn't mean she is good in it just because of her being strong in her main role it doesn't work that way.

Also riven has .5% play rate in the fucking jungle yea it sooooo viable that no one is playing it.

The thigh guyApr 10, 20191 votes

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Thanks for not reading my post I said there not viable in there off roles if they were they would be played more in them but there not there play rates are very very low in them and I said why vayne top sucks since it does it is not good. Different roles require different skills just because a champion like vayne has a off role doesn't mean she is good in it just because of her being strong in her main role it doesn't work that way.

Also riven has .5% play rate in the fucking jungle yea it sooooo viable that no one is playing it.

And again. Thanks for not reading MY post.

Ezreal was gutted for having under a 1% play rate in mid. Why are these champions any fucking different? Other than being riots approved flavor of the month?

boricCentaur1Apr 10, 20191 votes

Yeah it made no sense so I ignored it since the last time ezreal was hit for mid was idk 2015 and I don't even know about that since I forgot and recently he has only been nerfed for adc and last time he was nerfed for a off role was when jungle ezreal was op and that had like a 15% playrate and was complete bs to face.

So please inform me when the last time ezreal mid was directly nerfed and I will be happy to say your right.

The thigh guyApr 10, 20191 votes

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Yeah it made no sense so I ignored it since the last time ezreal was hit for mid was idk 2015 and I don't even know about that since I forgot and recently he has only been nerfed for adc and last time he was nerfed for a off role was when jungle ezreal was op and that had like a 15% playrate and was complete bs to face.

So please inform me when the last time ezreal mid was directly nerfed and I will be happy to say your right.

Double tear and the ap ratio nerf was to bump him out of his 2.4% mid playrate.

boricCentaur1Apr 10, 20191 votes

But those were because of bot lane ezreal since it give him a really good late game like he is still built with a gunblade in bot lane right now like he was the most popular adc until after the nerfs or look at lcs games where it was built in.

The thigh guyApr 10, 20191 votes

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But those were because of bot lane ezreal since it give him a really good late game like he is still built with a gunblade in bot lane right now like he was the most popular adc until after the nerfs or look at lcs games where it was built in.

The tear nerf was for botlane. The ap ratio nerf was for midlane. Also the double tear nerfs was bullshit anyways. 48% winrate. Eh let’s gut him anyway.

Rock MDApr 10, 20191 votes

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Vayne bot/top Riven top/mid/jungle Yasuo bot/mid/top Zed top/mid Lux mid/sup

Yet Ezreal dares to be at a 48% winrate bot and a 47% winrate mid and got his ap ratios gutted because “silly ad, you can’t leave your role” except Vayne for some fucking reason.

Morgana is another example of this. Suddenly she is PLAYABLE mid. Not even good. PLAYABLE. And riot gutted her mid viability. I don’t see riven’s Jungle viability being taken away.

He wasn't being played mid he was going bot lane and had way too much safety and damage with the AP build. That's why the build got nerfed. It had NOTHING to do with him going mid and the changes didn't even hurt traditional mid builds for him

Critmaster GarenApr 10, 20191 votes

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Ummm no basically all of those champions are only played in one role like where are you getting this idea from if yas was good in 3 roles he would have a much higher playrate in those roles but he doesn't he is only played mid.

Like what did you lose to a yas adc that just snowed I can play gnar adc too and snowball and win. All those champions are not good in there off roles vayne top sucks it doesn't help your team and can be easily ganked, yas actually loses a lot of top lane match ups

vayne top has almost 53% winrate. even with a 3% play rate that means she is played more than some traditional top laners and to be considered viable on top lane as a counterpick to certain champions.

shes just overpowered in general and were approaching 3 month of her not getting nerfed despite being obviously broken.

The thigh guyApr 10, 20191 votes

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vayne top has almost 53% winrate. even with a 3% play rate that means she is played more than some traditional top laners and to be considered viable on top lane as a counterpick to certain champions.

shes just overpowered in general and were approaching 3 month of her not getting nerfed despite being obviously broken.

They won’t listen. They are set in stone “it’s not at a 70% playrate so nothing is wrong hue hue hue.”

boricCentaur1Apr 10, 20191 votes

If it was good people would play it your right vayne has been strong for a good amount of time so why hasn't her playrate in top actually went up to a high number and not stayed at a low number.

Critmaster GarenApr 10, 20191 votes

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If it was good people would play it your right vayne has been strong for a good amount of time so why hasn't her playrate in top actually went up to a high number and not stayed at a low number.

it did go up?

she wasnt immediately played top after her buffs. it started happening a few weeks later. you might not be able to pick her into every matchup, but shes a hard counterpick to a lot of slow fighters.

Zero ShingetsuApr 10, 20191 votes

To hear most everyone talk, every champion is viable in exactly one role, except for a few that are viable in two roles. Me, I play AP Nasus at Support. If you're struggling with Ezreal in other lanes, try mixing up your build. Maybe go AP (if that's still viable), or change up the order you build things. Never know. Also if you take him top, I'd grab Executioner's Calling.

SaevumApr 10, 20191 votes

If he is leaving bot to hang around with the cool guys and gals in mid, something is wrong. There are a lot of bursty mages and assassins there. If he by any chance starts surviving in that kind of environment, he is most likely gonna be under a loop or pushed back down for good, where he belongs.

VoraciousXApr 10, 20191 votes

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Zed is played top and mid. Riven is played top mid and jungle.

And yasuo adc is a current s tier pick.

Riven can't reliably mid. She can mid vs SOME champions, like assassins, Yasuo, and Ryze, but she doesn't do that well vs most actual mages because they have burst, longer CC, and kite her. Riven CAN be played jungle somewhat decently, but she gives up early damage for that, and mostly gets her allies ahead instead of herself.