Why does the balance team have a bias against top laners?

General Esdeath ·Jan 6, 2018·16 votes·1,112 views

Top laners had a strat of taking wolf camp for lv 2 and then would tp top, so Riot made it so you need a jungle item for the exp.

Then top laners starting taking smite and Riot nerfed the jungle items vs champions

ADC using shield while their support takes one, along with overheal and are harder to kill while still dealing as much damage. Riot has still ignored this, plus the issues that have left marksmen in a strong spot for a whole year.

So Riot will nerf something when a top laner uses it when it's not intended, but not when a marksman does it?

24 Comments

SalronJan 6, 201812 votes

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Top laners had a strat of taking wolf camp for lv 2 and then would tp top, so Riot made it so you need a jungle item for the exp.

As a top laner fuck that strat It was basically mandatory to do it every single game because if your opponent did it and you didnt you were down a full level plus some pots

meowwow7Jan 6, 20181 votes

it wasn't just top doing it either cass would take smite if she had to deal with assassins due to the smite bonus working with her e

TheThundersRoarJan 6, 20183 votes

But like, that Cass thing is literally what strategy is.

You're taking a calculated risk, giving up a summoner and paying for a smite item to fight off assassins.

I don't see why Riot has to remove it.

Remlap1223Jan 6, 20181 votes

Were you around for Smite Shyvana top lane? Or trailblazer Ezreal?

TheThundersRoarJan 6, 20182 votes

I was for both. Nerfs are necessary at some points. But Riot has a habit of completely disabling strategies they're not comfortable with, and that I disagree with.

General Esdeath Jan 6, 20184 votes

Because it forces the other person to do the same thing.

KlydeFrogJan 6, 20182 votes

Umm ludens procs on his q now FYI . It's a secret buff

Remove JungleJan 6, 201810 votes

they are ADC mains

Yaśuo MainJan 6, 20181 votes

Werent they mage and tank mains or am I forgetting we choose who they main to fit the post

RexxieeJan 6, 20187 votes

Also, its not that they have a bias against top lane, its that nobody on the balance team play toplane, they are all jungle/tank/support mains, and you wonder why those roles/champs are all overpowered like this atm? Lmao.

MordepoolJan 6, 20182 votes

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Also, its not that they have a bias against top lane, its that nobody on the balance team play toplane, they are all jungle/tank/support mains, and you wonder why those roles/champs are all overpowered like this atm? Lmao.

Not sure why the downvote your not wholly inaccurate

GayFluffyUnicornJan 6, 20183 votes

Don't forget that the main people responsible don't even play league.

Elkington VIJan 6, 20187 votes

They do nerf things when marksmen abuse them, it just generally takes a lot longer. Yes, the adc/support/flashy champ bias is a real thing in this game, has been that way for a while.

RexxieeJan 6, 20183 votes

Just build spellthiefs or coin top lane yourself (lots of farming tops like nasus or gp have been doing it), abuse the broken support items until they nerf them.

FreevageeterJan 6, 20181 votes

And have no health stats, nice choice.

ZeroAgainstJan 6, 20183 votes

knowing riot they'l never fix relic shield just go look at tt as an example

TengenToppaGnarJan 6, 20181 votes

Relic Shield isn't a huge problem, Ranged Champs can't proc the Heal/Execute, only gold. Thats what was happening in a game where I was a ranged champ trying to use Relic Shield.

Troll for TrumpJan 6, 20181 votes

They know, they're addressing it soon. The PBE changes in the past are indicators that they at least see the problem (as well as what they've said)

General Esdeath Jan 6, 20183 votes

This has been going on for almost 6 months...

Troll for TrumpJan 6, 20182 votes

Much longer than that, sadly.

TiboldJan 6, 20181 votes

Because it's too difficult to balance. Top lane has more champs than any other lane that are viable, and almost every kit is intuitive by itself. They dont hate top lane. Instead, they just instill tank meta. Tanks are overtuned. WE WANT TOP LANE BACK! (Or don't. I'm a support main, so... I don't really care TOO much about the state of people on top lane)[slayer-jinx-wink]

TengenToppaGnarJan 6, 20181 votes

item 3302 won't get a nerf cause it costs early game damage and sustain in a sense vs the enemy, and a ranged adc only shares gold, nothing else. They can't execute and they don't get heals. HOWEVER, item 3303 or item 3301 on the other hand, which don't require someone nearby to even work, they'll likely get a nerf or they'll implement something to FORCE THEM to work like item 3302 , like an ally within a certain range. obviously makes farming cs and procing a no-no. , just make it so GOLD coins only drop when allies are around, otherwise mana only, fuck'em.

General Esdeath Jan 6, 20182 votes

Top isn't really hard to balance at all. And it doesn't have the most "viable" champs, it's just that anything except bruisers works because, guess what, bruisers are shit without fervor or any items that are used by just them.

GayFluffyUnicornJan 6, 20182 votes

Know the simple reason is riot hates bruiser as a whole. Has always and will always. Low elo hates them even more because you need actually skill to play them and against them. It takes some brain to counter splitpush etc. that's the whole reason. Just fire the balance team entirely and replace them with people who know what they do.