Serious question, what is Fiora's counterplay?

DoktorKaiser·Mar 13, 2017·7 votes·2,832 views

First thing, I am not a bronzie or something and even if I was I would deserve an realistic anwser, however I am low diamond - high plat on my main so don't take me for an idiot please.

Second thing, the CC her or 1v5 her argument is really dumb and overused, I am asking for something realistic, by the way even CC her is unrealistic when Fiora comes into play.

Third thing, she is really easy to play, dont give me that hard to play crap, I played her once and took quadra + penta, might have been a lucky game but still you should not do that on a "hard" champion.

Please discuss and dont flame or downvote me for no reason. Enlighten me...

10 Comments

420 gramsMar 13, 20173 votes

Hug the wall when fighting so she can't trigger side vitals. Walk away when you have an easy to proc vital and cone back with a new vital on the opposite side. Try playing her more and you'll learn more about her kit.

MinaZer0Mar 13, 20172 votes

that doesnt work lolol, she can do the same thing to get preferred vitals.

FrightningMar 13, 20173 votes

Number 1 counterplay is denying her Vitals, which you do by matching her movements (in fight) as much as you can (and posture/position so that she can't easily Q for one outside of trades). Keep in mind a few things: Her Q is fairly short CD unless she misses everything with it (no hit on anything), when a Vital is proc'd a new one starts to appear almost immediately, it can be collected before the animation of it's appearance is complete, so don't think you're safe just because that animation is still playing.

Staying at max melee range when fighting her usually means she can't Q to the far side of you to get a far-side Vital, which means it stays and she doesn't get a new Vital elsewhere during the trade/all-in.

Why is Vital denying so good v Fiora? Apart from the obvious denying of significant true damage (which counters resists, so denying Vitals makes your armor more effective against her), it also denies her the flat heal and movement speed (which means she will have an even harder time getting to the Vital she needs to pop).

Btw, Fiora's W has a bit of a delay on it, and doesn't last very long, so if you can avoid telegraphing your use of CC, it can often get through even when her W is up.

Immediately after she Q's, even if she gets a Vital off of it, is usually the best to time to engage a trade, as her Q is now on CD and won't be up for a while, especially if she missed everything (no 60% off CD, so it may be as long as 16 seconds!). Be careful though to note if she popped a Vital, where the new one is appearing, you don't wanna jump on her if that will lead to her being on the right side to get that fresh Vital without even having to move.

Lastly, Vitals never appear on the same place twice, so if she just got one from a given side, the next one won't be there, and that side is 'safe' outside of her ult'ing you for a bit. I've noticed that every other Vital seems to appear directly opposite where the last one was, and the others are 90% off. I've also noted that it tends to vary between top-right and bottom-left pairs most of the time in lane (top lane). So that's handy for helping you anticipate when your more exposed Vitals will appear v. safer ones and when to time your trades.

KVbqbFsC8eMar 13, 20173 votes

Used to be QSS, but ever since that was changed she has no counter.

MinaZer0Mar 13, 20172 votes

Only Fiora counters Fiora LUL

MordiusMar 13, 20172 votes

High sustain counters her.

Early game she has to poke with her Q, and it has a moderate cooldown.

If you can heal back the damage before she can Q again, she is rendered useless.

Consider: Aatrox Akali Darius DrMundo Garen Kled Renekton Sion XinZhao

Also Lulu. Lulu top is broken.

SaltyKrackaMar 13, 20171 votes

She's very short ranged.

reaperteaserMar 13, 20171 votes

frozen heart hurts her e, hugging walls on specific vitals can stop alot of her passive damage/healing. if you step away and return to reset the vital and she does the same, you get at least 5 seconds to farm, so time it right and force her to choose between missing cs or be at a dissatvantage for the next trade. if you can afford to lose a trade or 2 early on, it can be really easy to get into her head by setting up very predictable moves and then completely switching up how you go in for trades, it will throw her parry timing off pretty bad. otherwise its a skill match up. keep an eye on her out of lane movements and if you can roam to gank another lane while she cant, do it!