Top lane Ornn got murdered hard this patch

Tychusfindlay918·Jan 10, 2019·6 votes·2,735 views

Losing his shield destroyed his ability to take any sort of trade. He has no defensive steroid at all in the lane phase, and while his damage is a bit more decent now, you're better off playing an actual bruiser for better damage and some sort of sustain mechanic.

His passive means nothing because he's still forced into mana crystal first buy and you can't do anything else otherwise you'll just be OOM.

Ornn top is essentially auto loss more often than not, I can't speak for other lanes, but he cannot trade anymore.

Granted the changes did make him scale quite a bit better, it won't matter because the game is almost always over by then anyways and someone is running someone's nexus down.

12 Comments

Sire HippingtonJan 10, 20193 votes

TRhe changed didin'z even help his scaleing Sure, the dmg gets a good bit higher, but his damage is not what makes him good later on as it's pretty clunky and somewhat easy to counter later on, what made him stron was his ult for teamfights, and it got the slow nerfed and the knockup cut down to one third of it's former duration, so his main contribution for lategame teamfights got fucked pretty hard aswell...

RexxieeJan 10, 20192 votes

Welcome to how crit adcs have been for the last over 10 patches.

And nothing has been done about it yet, get behind the waiting line.

RagnaveilJan 10, 20193 votes

Ornn's been in the shitter for longer than that. At least some crit ADs are able to function, heck, all of them can, while Ornn ate shit every toplane matchup because they refuse to give him actual tank stats, which was all he needed. This rework honestly tells me, "We dont know what tanks are, or how to balance them anymore"

Silly NeekoJan 10, 20192 votes

I very much agree. Pretty much Ornn is now a damage dealer with hp% damage on his W and passive now. May as well get trinity force and build stormrazor etc so that your brittle hit feels more impactful. He lost the only hp scaling he had, and it almost feels bad to build him tank nos,

MoonscourgeJan 10, 20191 votes

Wtf no. You still get more resistances from your purchases. Now you will have to buy Health over just rushing Mana and some regen in there. You don't buy any damage items because your base damage is that extremely high. You just buy survivability.

Silly NeekoJan 11, 20191 votes

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Wtf no. You still get more resistances from your purchases. Now you will have to buy Health over just rushing Mana and some regen in there. You don't buy any damage items because your base damage is that extremely high. You just buy survivability.

Or i can buy Black Cleaver, Trinity Force, have them upgraded at lvl 13, get a stormrazor or Maw or death dance or titanic hydra as the needs arise. Kill everyone, have 40% cdr, decent health, decent resists, tons of damage after you Q W auto, you will get to reset auto with titanic proc which will do even MORE..... so you pretty much 1hko squishies whilr being able to chunk tanks hard and fast.

D357R0Y3RJan 10, 20192 votes

he's getting a nerf on PBE (W cd from 12 sec to 14 sec)

he's broken af stop pretending the opposite

Z3SleeperJan 10, 20192 votes

Gasp, laning without a spammable shield on an immobile champion who gains sustain through literally buying it in lane.

Sounds utterly impossible.

Tychusfindlay918Jan 10, 20191 votes

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he's getting a nerf on PBE (W cd from 12 sec to 14 sec)

he's broken af stop pretending the opposite

so because riot is making a certain decision the balance philosophy behind it must be true?

Oh my lord you must be new here buddy.

Ornn is not that great, and the nerf is baffling unless he's overperforming in a role that isn't top.

SithesisLordJan 10, 20191 votes

Ever considered that it might be a readjustment?

That 12 seconds might be just too low of a CD on a champion who can easily get to 40%?

That Ornn is not broken, but is rather worse than he was before?

GigglesOJan 10, 20191 votes

More proof that riot doesn't know how to just make someone a clunky meat shield.

Riot won't make tanks strong because they would have to lower damage to do that. They would have to lower damage because 1 cc is still pretty much death. Unless you reduce damage it doesn't matter how garbage a tank is if they hit their 1 cc.

What is unfortunate is how many other classes have cc. So there is no longer a real reason to have a tank.