Their healthbar over the course of a skirmish:
Am I actually expected to start just buying Grievous Wounds against every top laner and jungler even when they have absolutely zero innate healing in their kit?
CØulrophobia20 votesA rant from someone who used to love Vladimir.
Vladimir has not been a drain and sustain mage in a long time. He is 100%-0% Burst mage now, and that is how Vlad mains play him. In teamfights Vlad will usually just oneshot carry before getting oneshotted himself.
He does a lot of healing, yes. But mostly to offset his W and E costs. 20% and 10% HP. His sustain is actually a lot lower than people give him credit for.
Conqueror+Deaths Dance however is basically for everybody who wants to be assasin and draintank like crazy.
OgSc10 votesHes a aoe burst,drain tank,late game scaling, tanky top team fighting kassawin, mage. Imo, he does too much.
Sir Saltarin3 votesThank you, that's an accurate way to describe how broken Vladimir is right now.
Hardstück8 votesWith exception that vladimir is broken and for example aatrox (conqueror,death dance user) isn't broken. Same for irelia,kled and other conqueror and death dance users :)
TotalJerk1 votesIf they aren't broken and those items are core on them I wouldn't be surprised if they're just innately bad and being propped up by the rune/item combo. Regardless, my point is that it's frustrating that everyone is doing Vlad's shtick of having their health bar constantly jumping up and down by drastic amounts during fights.
Hardstück2 votesYou just have to buy executioners/morelos if you don't like healing XD!
FabWarlock3 votesYou just have to buy executioners/morelos if you don't like healing XD!
One problem is things like Mundo. Do you think Morellonomicon matters to mundo that much? Mages can't kill Mundo by themselves or can barely even do it with a full team. Mundo's more recent MR buffs make it literally impossible for mages to put things like that down. You literally have to 5 man a Mundo, which might be fun for the Mundo, but not for the enemy team.
Hardstück1 votesProblem with mundo is simple. Hes trash lol... Other than his ult the kit isn't unique and needs a rework,he needs to be 5mand if he is super ahead if he isn't you just lock in darius or riven or aatrox or kled or master yi top even and you beat him at any stage of the game. Problem is soloq is all about aram,and i dont like that and thats why i perma split push even with akali because when enemies come i always go atleast 1 for 1 or 2 for 1 so my team can do objective (baron
ChiefDovahkin1 votesOne problem is things like Mundo. Do you think Morellonomicon matters to mundo that much? Mages can't kill Mundo by themselves or can barely even do it with a full team. Mundo's more recent MR buffs make it literally impossible for mages to put things like that down. You literally have to 5 man a Mundo, which might be fun for the Mundo, but not for the enemy team.
If you think you need to 5 man as a mage with morello into Mundo, you're playing a different game than me bc Mundo is shite and Morello is opop.
RacoonHunter1 votesTry telling that to a nasus. I've seen nasus 1v9 even with grevious thanks to conqu and taking either the healing with abilities or the extra healing in resolve.
The issue is just that. Theres so many ways to amp healing ,but not enough to offset it. If there was a way that runes can give you some form of minor healing reduction or rework them so that grevious actually matters, then we wont have all these healing conq tanks.
kuzzy471 votesTry telling that to a nasus. I've seen nasus 1v9 even with grevious thanks to conqu and taking either the healing with abilities or the extra healing in resolve.
The issue is just that. Theres so many ways to amp healing ,but not enough to offset it. If there was a way that runes can give you some form of minor healing reduction or rework them so that grevious actually matters, then we wont have all these healing conq tanks.
1va9 lol did he kill his teammates too?
TotalJerk1 votesWhy am I buying such an item to deal with champions that were historically designed and balanced around little to no healing?
Saianna4 votesBut remember folks its the dirty MAGES that shouldn't have spellvamp in this game.
kuzzy471 votesBut remember folks its the dirty MAGES that shouldn't have spellvamp in this game.
Funny cuz mage burst is best counter to these ad healing champs.
ZapMyHeart1 votesFunny cuz mage burst is best counter to these ad healing champs.
can counter them right back.
LTK KoRo2 votesevery champion with conq and DD needs to deal damage in order to heal, just kite these scrublords in teamfights and then see them die
and if you're trying to 1 vs 1/1 vs 2 him then it's only on you sweetheart
FSRER1 votesIs that overpowered or it is just vladimir who has somehow avoided nerfs for the past years?
TotalJerk1 votesThat's Vlad's thing though. As annoying as it can be in the worst cases, it's what he's supposed to do, and it's what he's designed and balanced around. A Riven doing it on the other hand? Get that shit out of my games, please!
FSRER1 votesAnd riven is supposed to do what she does right now by that logic. Vladimir was not meant to be a unkillable even when ignited tank who goes to 5 people, 1 shots them and leaves with full hp and neither was riven created to be the best duelist/diver in the game. They made them in the past year to be such broken pieces of crap.
Tote Col1 votesCan we just talk about Udyr no? :D
OgSc1 votesHes not much of an issue, imo. He falls off and has some nasty counters (jax, nocturne, elise). His invades are easy to shut down through warding entrances and kiting camps back to a safe route should he come. Hes a super strong invader, dont get me wrong.
Shiroyashayami1 votesI think %%%%queror should be changed.
Verxint1 votesThe issue is that in the past if you spec'd that much healing you'd give up damage and take a lot longer to kill enemies. Now there's so much damage that, while you technically have less than if you went hard damage instead of sustain, you still have more than enough to murder people quickly.
LordGeovanni1 votesFighters used to do this in season 3. Adcs have been doing it from season 2 and still do it today if they build any more than 15 % lifesteal on a crit build.