Man I enjoy so much when a "juggernaut"

Beatrice falls·10/26/2018, 8:25:46 PM·1 votes·1,136 views

Builds 2 """""AD items"""""" and then goes full tank with 4k hp, 200 armor and 150 mr and is allowed to deal assassin-like damage

Just nerf the juggernaut class as a whole, they are just a terrible design, unfun to face and unfun to play. Tell me how normal it is are allowed to only build but will deal as much damage as a full AD

And then you have bullshit like who go for full tank and deal as much as any assassin while being as mobile as them, incredibly tanky and having some CC

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BobaFlautist10/26/2018, 8:30:17 PM8 votes

Have you tried not standing in the immobile, low cc, low-ability range, melee champions?

Like, I get'cha, it can be frustrating to try to lane against a juggernauts or to try to dive their team, but they're balanced around how hard it is for them to make you fight them. Fiora has a super low cooldown dash and a spellshield that reflects cc, riven has four relatively short CD dashes, a low CD aoe stun, and a low CD aoe knockup. They're not at all comparable to the immobile, easily kited juggernauts.

ValiantKiller10/26/2018, 8:32:56 PM4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Beatrice falls,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=THtaHG21,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-26T20:25:46.881+0000)

Builds 2 """""AD items"""""" and then goes full tank with 4k hp, 200 armor and 150 mr and is allowed to deal assassin-like damage

Just nerf the juggernaut class as a whole, they are just a terrible design, unfun to face and unfun to play. Tell me how normal it is are allowed to only build but will deal as much damage as a full AD

And then you have bullshit like who go for full tank and deal as much as any assassin while being as mobile as them, incredibly tanky and having some CC

Jax and Camila isn't juggernauts and Juggernauts deal the highest damage cause they trade it for their immobility.

Moody P10/26/2018, 9:28:22 PM2 votes

ok nerf tankiness but give Garen 3 dashes and riposte, fair?

AR URF10/27/2018, 12:43:39 AM1 votes

I love it when assassins just get item 3134 and one shot.

Elite4Runner10/26/2018, 8:40:20 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Beatrice falls,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=THtaHG21,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-26T20:25:46.881+0000)

and unfun to play.

Interesting, .. I mean, how do you know?

You've only played Darius on Howling Abyss. You played Garen once on Summoner's Rift, but all of your other Garen matches have been on Howling Abyss as well.

Do you really know that they are not fun to play?

Hethalean10/26/2018, 8:30:59 PM1 votes

Eventually the 'deal as much as any assassin' loses its meaning when you realize the assassination targets don't have more HP vs Darius than they do Talon... so it's just a tautology. however, doubtful they do it as fast as assassins in the slightest.

Kai Guy10/26/2018, 11:30:35 PM1 votes

Your Max HP varies by class and champs. Many classes are squishy. A low Max HP with Low Defensive stats is a good recipe to die. If you want your post to be taken seriously and not treated like a QQ thread you need to be accurate in reflecting the game state. A 1300 hp champion dying to any on, this is the same max damage regardless of the class killing them. The Ease in getting this kill, as well as the time it takes to do so are what should be addressed. Juggernaughts tend to have good sustained damage. Garren Q into E, Darius building up stacks, how ever this takes more game time to net 1300 damage then an assassin could do it, often with more windows of counterplay then what an assassin can give players.