Perma-slow becomes disgusting when you can also perma-speedup

The Deckowner··9 votes·1,031 views

This is why Cassiopea and Gnar are the biggest offenders of frozen mellet and rylais.

watching a low hp gnar kiting a lee sin to death with perma slow and perma speed up makes me feel like I am getting eye cancer. Seriously it's a lee sin who landed 2 Q's.

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Only Play Darius4 votes

Gnar should get the Kled treatment, he was never intended to be tanky in his mini form

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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Gnar should get the Kled treatment, he was never intended to be tanky in his mini form

Gnar is just Teemo v2.0. In theory his miniform with glasscannon build has better best DPS than the most ADCs, but he is too short ranged (early), squishy (1645 when he is lvl 18 which is the lowest in the game) and unreliable, because of the transformation. Not playing him tanky is like running the pre-rework Quinn as the main DPS. The main problem is item 3022 and the 3hit Magic Damage: 10 / 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 (+ 6 / 8 / 10 / 12 / 14% of target's maximum health) + 30 / 45 / 60 / 75% bonus movement speed that decays over 3 seconds.

WoonStruck3 votes

Ekko item 3025. Bonus damage and more slows to go with his slows/speed up. Ends up super hard to kill and get away from.

Ekko item 3078. Lots of bonus damage and tons of skirmishing power via AS, MS, and Fervor damage, all added to his slows/speed up. Out-duels most champs.

**And yet you don't use Ekko as the staple for your argument? **

Both Cass and Gnar prove to be issues at times prior to their slowing items, even.

Ekko encompasses the issue you present more than both.

The Deckowner1 votes

he is getting a rework very soon(6.22), so I don't mind him too much. Also I honestly haven't faced or.played with an ekko in awhile. with his base stat nerf most metasheeps have flee

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

at least hes melee.

ReshiKillim2 votes

Ekko item 3116 item 3022

FooDang3 votes

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Ekko item 3116 item 3022

Dat B5 Freelo Ekko build.

specter4242 votes

Ekko

Shadòw1 votes

he was like 2 items ahead.

The Deckowner1 votes

really isn't about the item lead(the only armor item was GA lol), but rather the fact that he can spam q and auto while walking away and one of the most mobile champion in the game can't even land a single auto on him after chasing from inhib to tier1 tower.

Shadòw1 votes

well mini gnar is a kite champion and he did land autos and q's it was just that he didnt have the damage to finish him

Commander Javik1 votes

God damm you're right man . I hate that too ...

YuGiHo1 votes

No one was even talking about malet tho

The Deckowner1 votes

it is bwcause people are jumping on the worlds hype train right now and playing rumble kennen, once Gnar comes back to solo queue after worlds we can expect the QQ come back with him.

Foxstep1 votes

Lmao gnar was 4/0, lee was 0/4 or something like that. He just outplayed him.

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