Isn't Natural Talent a little weak?

It really is lacking any advantage over the 2% Live steal and spell vamp.

Now if it was 4 + .333*level AD and 8+.6666 * level AP then it would be actaully all around worth consideing since that would start at 4 AD and 9 AP shown and end at 10 AD and 20 AP.

People usually take masteries for an early game boost but natural talent is currently lacking a good enough early game boost.

A little weak? It's horrible.

Yes I don't get it on anyone except AP assassins

No early game advantage and insignificant late advantage.

Thats a problem with many low tier masteries.

2% vamp isn't really great either. 40hp after killing an 2000hp opponent from fullhealth, great.

8% more healibng/shielding recived? Situational good if your champ has massive self heal/shield, and/or you have alot healing/shielding from your allys on top, but on most champs it's rather bad aswell.

45hp? Yea, that things is orettymuch shit.

Only the the cunning tree offfers reasonable stuff at that tier imo, the manaregen is noticeable, especially without mana pots, and 5% more damage vs lowhealth also is quite nice.

It gives me OCD, I hate having random AP/AD on a champ that won't use the extra stat, to the point where in my 20 mastery pages I don't ever take it.

It doesnt matter. Mastery is not going to make or break the game. You will win games based on your skill. Plat 1 with no masteries/runes will still destroy gold 5 with runes/masteries.

Split it into its two halves and strengthen them appropriately, and/or make it more like Precision (where it actually provides some benefit early-game but still scales). I like the idea of AD and AP on a single mastery for last-hitting as a mage, but it provides less than 1 AD early game, which is when I actually need it.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/yYBm9rXq-i-honestly-love-the-changes-placed-in-however-i-as-well-as-many-have-a-few-suggestions

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Yeah it sucks.

2% lifesteal and spellvamp may not seem like much, but it adds up. Say you're the ADC and you last hit minions with autos for like 80 damage. That's only 1.6 HP, but by the time you've killed 100 minions this way, that's 160 HP, not even counting attacking your opponent or using abilities. So it really does add up to being more useful early game than the alternative. And the alternative is just a little more damage late game which is still barely even noticeable. I'd only take the alternative on someone that really barely does any damage, like Janna or someone like that, if I for some reason even used that far down on that tree for her.

it should give some kind of starting stats, as it is it isn't worth taking even by hybrid champs.