So they don't have the resources to make the Cass rework not trash.

i've played Evelynn/Garen top. So yeah i understand feelings of all reworked mains :/

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Riot didn't like Cass play patterns so they changed it. I personally don't care if she gets reverted or not.

Implying Riot actually knows what they're doing (they don't, and frequently demonstrate such). This rework is absolutely worthless. It has no value at all and should never have been done.

Many professional players have said in videos, presently online, that her rework was unnecessary. They have accepted it because of her high levels of damage, but the top Cass players, outside of King Cobra, have disliked her E-centric focus. Also:

Karma rework was not well received by the community for many months. It BECAME well received after 3 patches of buffs brought her to prominence. 3 Patches more than pre-rework Karma ever received. (Proof that raising numbers on abilities really does make champions popular)

Trundle was a sad loss, and many professional junglers said as much, but not gamebreaking.

Sion rework hasn't had much talk on the grander scene. But his play rate has been dwindling down to pre-rework levels now that his hype has died down.

People like new things with high numbers. You can make any champion more received by the community for doing such.

Poor Kayle enthusiasts who saw her reworked twice, complained, and still have her in a mediocre state.

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Riot didn't like Cass play patterns so they changed it. I personally don't care if she gets reverted or not.

So this game is now all about what Riot wants, not the players?

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Once her numbers are increased people will shift their opinions from "joke" to "op"

You must be new to Riot's balancing cycle if you think anecdotal evidence matters in the slightest

you were the one first bringing up anecdotal evidence with how you knew the general audience felt about cassiopeia.

and how a kit works and doesn't work on paper is still important to how they will behave. obviously you could still make cassiopeia win a lot of games if her E did 5 billion damage when you hit 500 stacks, but her effectiveness relative to how her numbers work will mean that increasing her numbers will make her viable in solo queue first where people won't properly capitalize on her weaknesses but her players will know how to capitalize on her strengths, and then the numbers will have to be much higher if she is to become viable in competitive, which is one of the stated goals of her rework, and then she will be totally broken in solo queue with a ridiculous winrate.

Furthermore, if she is left in an adequate solo queue state and her competitive viability is ignored (i'm pretty sure the standard acceptable state for a champion is reasonably balanced in one and either balanced or underpowered in the other, but not too OP in either no matter how much the other has to suffer to bring them reasonably in line) then her patterns will not really be fun for cass players unless they're winning (all i can do is mash my buttons until i die or the enemy dies, there isn't really a way to outplay the enemy besides getting my dps to be really big) and will feel really awful for her opponents when they're losing (the game timer has hit whatever minute total it is for her to hit her stack threshold, now if i end up in range of her i either fight her and lose because she has too much dps from an average cs count and a passive that is literally mostly just a timer or i try to run and she chases me and still kills me because of her ridiculous movespeed)

these are patterns you see in other champions as the buff/nerf cycles go around. warwick has a crap kit and is the perfect example: no way to get in range to deal damage without his ult, no burst damage, his ult locks him down, melee with no cc outside of his ult and no burst damage at all so he has to build damage and tankiness and somehow stick to targets. he has two things that save him: his ult is point and click (oh boy the counterplay) and he has massive utility for himself and his team by getting vision and a huge ms boost to low health targets (he also has the group as boost which can be nice for objectives or even just dps boosts but that's way lesser) but overall his kit still just doesn't work because he has no real way to do anything without his ult, which is busted by 1 hard cc, which will be available to the enemy team by the time he gets his ult.

BUT, you say, warwick can be strong, it just comes down to buffs and nerfs! because his numbers can be so high that he clears the jungle fast with little health lost, and his base tankiness, sustain, and damage is so strong that he can just walk up to enemies and force them to back off or get killed by him. Now what happens to the game? warwick very easily becomes pick or ban tier in solo queue but is still rarely if ever seen in competitive and generally has pretty bad performance if he is seen, playing against a warwick is very boring and unfun because he's just a ticking timebomb until he gets enough items to walk into your team and ult your carry with nothing you can really do about it, if his team gets ahead at all his blood scent and bonus to team objective control will mean there's no way for you to really fight back. and worst of all, lanewick may become viable again, meaning the entire top lane becomes 100% passive because you have a champion that can't harass but can sustain through any harass the enemy tries to pelt him with.

a champion's kit NEEDS to have interesting play and counterplay on paper. it's not just a matter of "well it sounds really bad but we can fix that by giving them crazy numbers" because the kit is rotten in its core and trying to fix it in other ways will still cause that rotten part to bloat and fester.

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I'm honestly not sure if you're joking right now. Because everyone I'VE talked to, in game, loves her now. She's become a niche pick of an AP hypercarry. Well, theres Azir, but he's a bit too wonky for most people to use. But I digress. Contrary to your belief, people LIKE the change. Its something different than the regular mid mage line up. I think it stems from the fact the old Cass was a pretty unknown character. With all the attention she's getting now, people who didn't play the old Cass take a look at her and say "Eh, she's kind of tricky, but good if you can pull it off."

Tl;dr People who play Cass after the rework enjoy her, while old Cass players...well, want the old Cass back.

how do you bring up ap hypercarries without talking about ryze, who has the exact same strengths and weaknesses as cass EXCEPT HE ALSO HAS A BUILD PATH THAT MAKES HIM TANKY.

people LIKE the change. Its something different than the regular mid mage line up.

People then, would love a real fixed Cassiopeia.

I think it stems from the fact the old Cass was a pretty unknown character. With all the attention she's getting now, people who didn't play the old Cass take a look at her and say "Eh, she's kind of tricky, but good if you can pull it off."

They did not played her as she used to be. They didn't realized who/what was she.

People who play Cass after the rework enjoy her, while old Cass players...well, want the old Cass back.

Cause we know how she used to feel and the control she used to have if played properly (she wasn't op). The Champion we have now? its just a shadow of the former entity.

Contrary to your belief, people LIKE the change

I'm sorry, but I think you spelt "sheeple" wrong.

If this change was any good,** those people would have liked it BEFORE this patch buffed her.** But no, they only start claiming they like her now purely because she have bigger numbers.

This proves one thing and one thing only. Sheeps go to what they see pros make look OP. Try ignoring all the sheeps who thinks "viable/OP = fun"