@Riot: Un-nerf Swain's Q and AA Range

5050BS··1 votes·1,366 views

These were UNNECESSARY nerfs.

He cant attack the caster minions without standing IN the melee minions. Minion block is a CONSTANT pain when trying to CS because you CANT reach the back line without getting blocked my the melee minions.

His Q damage is total shit unless you are ON TOP of the target because of the spread.

In a game where 30m games are long games you made him even MORE post 30m of a champ because he does not become anything without 50+ stacks AND 3+ Items

He is not even played Top lane in Plat+ and is under 48% in mid lane (the only place he is played)

For a Infinite stacking champ he is weak even with 80+ stacks because they dont add to damage and they dont add enough to survivability.

If the enemy has dashers you cant get stacks. This is unlike ANY stackers in the game who all get stacks from MINIONS AND CHAMPS.

Again Riot missed the mark on a champ like they have been doing now for 3 years.

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5050BS1 votes

When Nas gets a stack on Q CD, Veigar gets stacks on Q CD and any spell hit on champs

Swain and a 12s CD for E (passive) and a 18s CD on W that will not hit anyone not rooted or stunned.

Gaining stacks is SO much harder then other stackers and yet only gives 5 HPs

Zero Shingetsu1 votes

I can't speak to Q, but why did they even nerf his auto range? I'd never noticed his autos being a huge part of why he dominates.

5050BS1 votes

For no reason other then melee top that dont have gap closers. Its not like to get stacks we have to pull them Close to Swain ANYWAY.

This minion block shit is really pissing me off too. It makes you miss a lot of CS because Swain bugs out walking to auto attack.

DartExplosion101 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T3Wkscin,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-20T00:54:23.043+0000)

I can't speak to Q, but why did they even nerf his auto range? I'd never noticed his autos being a huge part of why he dominates.

they nerfed his auto range because everyone was taking grasp on him to stack more hp combined with his passive

5050BS1 votes

Ya because stacking HP is what you do now.

DartExplosion101 votes

{quoted}

Ya because stacking HP is what you do now.

on swain, yes lol. that's why you go ROA on him

5050BS1 votes

Here is what they SHOULD have done for stacks

Soul Shard stack give Swain 2 AP. Passive heals for 4/5.5/7% of BONUS HPs + Number of Stacks and 4/5.5/7% of Mana + Number of Stacks Ult gives Bonus HP equal to 5x stacks

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