I want to expand my roster

Big Lincoln·Mar 29, 2015·1 votes·720 views

but i can't seem to pick up a new champion very quickly, can I get some advice/help with a few that I've been meaning to play

- i don't think I've ever had a game playing this guy top lane and doing well. I did okay with him jungling but he feels really lacking. how do i build/lane as him?

- this guy too, I just can't seem to make him work when it comes to ganking and fighting

- I used to be really good with him when I started playing. Now I just feed really hard whenever I pick him up

- I've actually been playing this guy a fair amount, but I wanted to know if any of his non-AP builds were usable? I did jungle AS teeto before and did well (still lost), but what would these sorts of builds entail?

- I feel useless for a majority of the game and then I'm suddenly able to make an impact. Is there a build that lets him spike a little sooner? I don't like waiting until 30 minutes before I can feel strong

3 Comments

disregardableMar 29, 20152 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfMELYIGaUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiM0ZMUo8PM

Have you seen Trick2g's videos for Udyr?

Basic Summary

To succeed as Udyr, you need to max your Q OR R first (R is better for faster clears), your W second, your E third, and the Q/R that you didn't max gets 3 last.

Build

You only need 1 damage item and the rest tanky with CDR. Lately trick has just been getting 30% CDR in his runes/masteries, but if like me you don't have a ton of CDR runes, you're gonna want to generally follow this build.

item 3725 The purple smite is the best smite in the game, because it lets you go longer without backing. More mana, more ganks, more survivability, easy solo dragons at level 4. Don't even bother with Stalkers, it's not worth it. Likewise for Cinderhulk. It's the best enchantment in the game for Udyr. Warrior is good if your team ahead, but if you want warrior don't rush it.

item 3110 Is your team doing really, REALLY well? If yes, do this second and rush Triforce. If your team doesn't have a 5 kill lead with no feeders, you're gonna rush this first. The CDR is invaluable, and Godyr needs to be tanky.

item 3078 You're going to want your Phage first. If your team isn't doing well but YOU ARE and have enough for Phage, get that then go into Frozen Heart.

After that, suit your tank items to the team you're facing. You only need 10% more CDR to get your 40%, so rushing a Banshee's at that point isn't a bad idea most of the time.

Playstyle

Blue, wolves, Red, scuttle crab. From then, you'll be level 3 and mostly full health, you can invade enemy jg and possibly cheese a first blood. Don't be afraid, Udyr is a boss early game. If he's not there, head through mid and possibly get a kill. Grab the second scuttle crab. If you can gank top, DO IT. If not, go to Gromp clear your whole jg. You'll be pretty low when you're finally at Krugs, so be wary of ganking bot, but it's an easy kill if their laners are low. Back, get purple smite, go solo dragon. All you need to do is use your w, WAIT 3 SECONDS, hit the dragon, make sure W is up every time dragon attacks. Easy. Now you just gank in between farming until mid game.

In mid game, you're a godly tank with a stun. Just stun the squishies, chase down the carries, flame them to pieces. It's fun as fuck. Always clear your jg. You're able to solo tank non-inhib turrets once you have your triforce and frozen heart, so if no one is at a turret feel free to just take it. Stay near your team, stay on top of dragons, focus squishies, it's super fun.

Questions?

BigIdeaMar 29, 20152 votes

Udyr: I've played quite a few udyr games. i max phoenix stance and focus most of my early game on farming, since his early game ganking isn't spectacular. he farms well though, so you should be able to get tanky fairly quickly. i run attack speed runes so he gets the phoenix burn more quickly and 9/21 masteries, since i think he's most effective as a tank. i soak up the most damage on my team in the majority of games i play udyr. focus on utilizing his stances to max potential throughout the game. for instance, while farming the jungle, know that his phoenix burn is everything 4th strike, so get in the 1st and 4th strike burns before switching to another stance.

Hasztalan2Mar 29, 20151 votes

Actually apart from Fiddlesticks the rest of thoose champs are really mediocre and have quite a few another champs who can do their jobs with more reliablity and with less efforts. If you are still keen on playing them watching some of the higher ranked ppl playing them could help a lot (op.gg for replays/specs).